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    Default Anybody Changing Carry Gun Due To Recent Activities?

    Recent activities meaning mass shootings, radicalized jihadists, etc.

    My primary reason for carrying was to protect myself from a BG who would have a handgun. My 1911 w/ 8+1 rounds was more than enough ammo as I did not see myself getting into an extended firefight. Long before I expended my 9 rounds I would expect the either the BG going down, or me.

    Now, I do have concerns that the BG may be a radicalized crazy that has planned out his onslaught. Although I know that a pistol is no match for a rifle, I do envision scenarios where more than 9 rounds would be necessary. By carrying my Hi-Power I have 15+1, almost twice of what I have w/ my 1911. The Hi-Power carries just as well as the 1911.

    Yes, I know that I can carry extra magazines and probably will start doing that. The argument is still the same - twice the ammo. Two extra magazines gives me 46 rounds w/ the Hi-Power as compared to 27 w/ the 1911.

    Yes I do think that a 45 is a superior caliber IF the BG is not wearing body armor. With body armor, a 9 is just as effective as a 45, and shooting center mass is not an option. Time for head, pelvis or thigh shots. A radicalized BG is more likely to have body armor than the 'traditional' BG.

    Anyone else thinking about changing their carry gun from a 45 to a 9 because of the above?

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    Default Re: Anybody Changing Carry Gun Due To Recent Activities?

    Realistically speaking you're unlikely to need to use your defensive firearm. You're even more unlikely to use it against a mass shooter or terrorist.

    That said, I'd rather have more rounds of 9 than less of 45. I do agree with your decisions assuming you shoot both equally well.

    Haven't changed my setup, I'm either at 16-24 total of 9 with a single stack, or 30-46 with a double depending on how many spare mags are in my pocket.

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    Default Re: Anybody Changing Carry Gun Due To Recent Activities?

    One word if GOD forbid you are near any active shooter with a high powered rifle,COVER ! Run for cover !

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    Default Re: Anybody Changing Carry Gun Due To Recent Activities?

    Carry gun won't be changing, but the recent activities around the country have most def made me decide to take trauma med courses this winter.
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    Default Re: Anybody Changing Carry Gun Due To Recent Activities?

    I am not changing anything, because statistics. Plus, as a gun owner that often uses the steadily declining rate of violent crime in the US, plus the extremely low number of people killed with modern sporting rifles, as arguments against gun control, why would I then change what I carry in contradiction to those facts?
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    Default Re: Anybody Changing Carry Gun Due To Recent Activities?

    Because statistically few of us have a need to carry at all. The chance Iíll ever need to have a gun on my person is statistically extremely low so why bother?
    Justin Case

    Itís kinda arguing that we are all a bunch of wannabes hoping for a shoot em up

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    Default Re: Anybody Changing Carry Gun Due To Recent Activities?

    I keep a rifle in my trunk since San Bernardino. Pistol and a reload gets me to the car, hopefully. If I've got my kids, we are leaving. If I'm alone, I'm gearing up, because fuck these assholes. I do have concern about being mistaken for a badguy, but no sense worrying about something you can't control.

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    Default Re: Anybody Changing Carry Gun Due To Recent Activities?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mitch10mm View Post
    Because statistically few of us have a need to carry at all. The chance I’ll ever need to have a gun on my person is statistically extremely low so why bother?
    Justin Case

    It’s kinda arguing that we are all a bunch of wannabes hoping for a shoot em up
    I disagree. It's all a matter of the what if scenario. Would you rather a. Decide to not carry, and if shit goes down, forever regret not being able to defend yourself or loved ones?
    Or b. Be as prepared as you can and have a chance at protecting yourself?
    I personally choose b and have since rotated in my p226 357 sig in lieu of my sw shield. Additional barrel length and velocity of the 357 is a better overall package

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    Default Re: Anybody Changing Carry Gun Due To Recent Activities?

    Nope.

    I still carry a KelTec 380 - if I'm even carrying at all.
    Now that cool weather is here and I can wear pants instead of shorts, I will probably carry my Shield when I can.
    Not because of Jihad though = just because it makes more sense than a P3AT.

    My bigger concern is that I sold my shotgun and now I learn that we have coyotes in the area killing dogs.
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    Default Re: Anybody Changing Carry Gun Due To Recent Activities?

    I agree with what most have said - Likelihood of needing to draw, very low. Likelihood have needing to draw and fire, lower still. Likelihood of firing on multiple targets, you are probably more likely to be struck by lightening. Likelihood of being involved against a mass shooter using a rifle - buy a lottery ticket after surviving the lightening strike.

    With that said the reason I carry a high cap pistol and an extra mag instead of my old cc .45 Colt combat commander is that under the stress of the moment almost all your marksmanship skills will go out the window. For as good as most people think they can shoot - from what I have seen most engagements end up as a "spray and pray" situation. I am a very good shooter, and would like to think center mass hits at 7 yards are a given, but when you read about shootings with a lot of shots fired and only one or two hits, I would like to have as much in the pistol as I can carry. I train to keep firing as much as required to neutralize the threat - I doubt I will ever fire just one or two rounds.

    The spare mag is not so much for the extra ammo as it is to:
    1. Counterbalance weight of the pistol or to keep the jacket from blowing and exposing the gun, and
    2. Provide a back-up if the first mag fails or falls out of the gun. It is very rare but it happens that in the course of a days activity the mag release is pressed by the holster,belr or whatever and the mag is not engaged. Draw the weapon and the mag drops out. I put extended mag releases on my Glocks and later took them off for this reason.

    Carry what you are comfortable with and practice as much as you can.

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