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    Unhappy Why the unknown motive in the Las Vegas massacre is so unsettling

    It appears that Paddock shot and killed the people in Vegas because he was a leftist democrat and he hated God and Country and Gun Owners/2A and wanted to harm the 2A. The main stream media is being purposely obtuse over his motives.... just me 2 cents!!


    Why the unknown motive in the Las Vegas massacre is so unsettling


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    Without answers that make gunman Stephen Paddock a rare and distant monster, Americans “are paralyzed” by fear

    LAS VEGAS -- We need to know.

    Two weeks after Stephen Paddock rained down bullets on attendees of a country music festival in Las Vegas, killing 58 and injuring more than 500, investigators are no closer to understanding the gunman’s motives.

    For a nation riveted by the deadliest mass shooting in recent U.S. history, this is a deeply unsettling problem.

    Police detectives and criminal profilers are working overtime to dissect Paddock’s behavior, circumstances and psychological state in the lead-up to the shootings. Mental health professionals and experts on human behavior, meanwhile, are bearing witness to a more common and less mysterious response on the part of Americans: a sense that without an explanation for Paddock’s actions, we cannot psychologically close the chapter on this shooting.

    “The lack of explanation here is bothering us on an almost existential level,” said psychologist Yuval Neria, an expert on post-traumatic stress disorder at Columbia University in New York. It’s an anguish Neria says he has heard in his lab and in his clinical practice from people who have followed the unfolding horrors from afar and from those with direct ties to the shooting.

    “It is an unconscious and profound human trait to seek a motive for catastrophic violence. It is a means of self-defense,” said Jeff Victoroff, a professor of psychiatry and neurology at the University of Southern California and an expert in trauma, terrorism and human aggression. “People need to make contingency plans, to protect themselves, by assigning a motive, recognizing people with that motive, and staying away from them.”

    As parents, we do this almost effortlessly to calm an anxious child. We put the threat at a distance. We cast the perpetrator as “other,” someone we could not possibly know. We promise our protection.

    Now, parents and other adults have seen for themselves that concertgoers can be mowed down from 32 stories up. They may be forced to accept that an amiable if distant neighbor - a seemingly successful man with no known history of mental instability - can inexplicably kill people against whom he bears no apparent grudge.

    “It’s unbearable,” Victoroff said. Without actionable answers that make Paddock a rare and distant monster, he said, “you are paralyzed.”

    In humans, trauma awakens a powerful urge to “make meaning” - to explain what cannot readily be explained, said Columbia’s Neria. And national traumas, especially those stoked, magnified and spread by wall-to-wall media coverage, make that urge a widely shared need.

    One of the hallmarks of PTSD is hyper-vigilance, Neria said. That’s when a sufferer’s ability to distinguish safe places from dangerous ones has broken down. Unfortunately, the continuing gap in understanding about what drove Paddock, 64, to kill has eroded that distinction, he said. For many Americans, it is a taste of what life is like for those with PTSD.

    Prayers and appeals to unity can fill the void that uncertainty creates. And sometimes that’s enough, experts said.

    “We don’t feel safe until we know, and explanation abhors a vacuum,” said Charles R. Figley, a psychologist who directs Tulane University’s Traumatology Institute in New Orleans.

    “People make up stuff,” Figley said. “That’s why we pray and ask God to protect us, to make sure that good people don’t get hurt. We start constructing explanations that at least make us feel better.”

    In normal times, Figley said, this process gets an assist from public figures. People who feel threatened naturally gravitate to people they trust, he said, a community of people “like us.” In such instances, a leader’s “come together” message aims to shape and broaden that community. In the absence of a clear explanation for trauma, after a natural disaster, for instance, a leader’s words are meant to inspire confidence that, even in a random world, Americans can rely on one another.

    But these are not normal times, Figley said. In a country riven by deep political and social divisions, the absence of an explanation for Paddock’s actions leaves many wondering, “Who’s on my side?” And in the absence of effective appeals to unity, he said, he fears that anxious Americans will probably retreat more deeply into their partisan echo chambers.

    President Donald Trump has done little to bring Americans together and help them move forward, Figley said. Despite an absence of evidence, Trump pronounced Paddock “sick” and “demented.”

    Trump’s characterization of Paddock as mentally ill may help the president feel better by providing a simplistic motive for the shooting, said Dr. David Spiegel, a Stanford University psychiatrist. But it is a poor response to a phenomenon that is actually quite easy to explain.

    The reason Paddock could kill so many people in a 10-minute span is that he had ready access to the means to do so, Spiegel said. The real explanation, he said, lies with guns and a culture that puts “ridiculous firepower” in virtually anyone’s hands.

    “There’s nothing sick about him,” Spiegel said of Paddock. “As a psychiatrist, I deeply resent the inference that anybody who does something like this is mentally ill. It’s untrue and deeply unfair to people with mental illness.”

    Finally, Spiegel warns, when people reflexively accept a “mental illness” explanation for mass shootings, they are playing into the hands of the gun rights advocates who would foil any effort to stem the tide of weapons in America.

    “We all want to feel in control of things we can’t control,” said Spiegel, who directs Stanford’s Center on Stress and Health. “We want to play this narrative in our heads that we can avoid these people. But what’s really chilling is that no matter where you go or what you do, there’s a coldblooded guy with a gun who could take you out.”

    Under the circumstances, he said, “we ought to be anxious.”
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    Default Re: Why the unknown motive in the Las Vegas massacre is so unsettling

    Quote Originally Posted by vinnyg101 View Post

    Why the unknown motive in the Las Vegas massacre is so unsettling



    LAS VEGAS -- We need to know.
    It doesn't matter. Whatever the reason, it won't stop the next asshat with an axe to grind, and the desire to pull off an even greater horrific event.
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    Default Re: Why the unknown motive in the Las Vegas massacre is so unsettling

    Quote Originally Posted by Gun View Post
    It doesn't matter. Whatever the reason, it won't stop the next asshat with an axe to grind, and the desire to pull off an even greater horrific event.
    So the event is solved?


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    Quote Originally Posted by bogey1 View Post
    So the event is solved?

    It will never be solved. And for some reason it is already last weeks news, no real details will be released, and will be forgotten soon.

    I think most Americans know there is never an answer for a psycho. It seems like the media is realizing it too.

    Luckily the libs will miss the gun grabbing chance they want.

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    Default Re: Why the unknown motive in the Las Vegas massacre is so unsettling

    Shrinks. Meh! People need to know the motives in order to avoid it? Bullshit. If that were true, there would be no repeated ownership of homes in Tornado Alley, incredible homes built in fire zones and collapsing earth cliffs, or on active faults. Likewise along ocean shores where hurricanes wipe out the places. They would not continue to fight gun ownership when they see time and again that a gun can save lives and stop crimes.

    People want bad things to stop happening, but they have been brain-washed to believe that George will do it for them, whether by laws or by magic.

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    Default Re: Why the unknown motive in the Las Vegas massacre is so unsettling

    Quote Originally Posted by Delkal View Post
    Luckily the libs will miss the gun grabbing chance they want.
    Uhmmm... someone isn't keeping up with what is going on in Congress right now. Perhaps you need to google HR 3999 (and the other recent bills).

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    Default Re: Why the unknown motive in the Las Vegas massacre is so unsettling

    Quote Originally Posted by bogey1 View Post
    So the event is solved?

    I don't think the JFK assassination is solved.

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    Default Re: Why the unknown motive in the Las Vegas massacre is so unsettling

    Quote Originally Posted by tacticalreload View Post
    Uhmmm... someone isn't keeping up with what is going on in Congress right now. Perhaps you need to google HR 3999 (and the other recent bills).
    Truth is and I’m not suggesting we sit on our butts, they have no momentum. Gun control isn’t what it once was. Most people, even those that dislike and don’t understand gun culture realize gun control doesn’t work.
    The politicians introducing these bills are still using the old playbook. It’s like muscle memory to them. It won’t cost them votes from the Left when these bills are unsuccessful but I do believe they will fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carson View Post
    I don't think the JFK assassination is solved.
    Oswald took the initial shots, but the brain buster was an AD from the SS guy on the following car with an AR in his hands. That is my analysis, but I have to dig out the books to give more detail. The SS guy was reacting to Oswalds shots.
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    Default Re: Why the unknown motive in the Las Vegas massacre is so unsettling

    Sometimes there is no explanation or closure.

    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire.
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