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October 11th, 2017, 08:06 PM #1
Bill (H.R.3999) to Effectively Ban Most Semi auto Rifles
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https://curbelo.house.gov/uploadedfi...mpstockban.pdf
The website of Representative Carlos Curbelo’s (FL-26) recently announced that he “and Seth Moulton (MA-6) announced they are leading a perfectly bipartisan effort to introduce legislation to ban the manufacture, sale, and use of “bump stocks.” The Members hope to introduce and move this legislation as quickly as possible.
Moulton’s and Curbelo’s legislation would be structured in the Noah’s Ark style, meaning Members would have to sign on as a co-sponsor with a Member from the other Party. Currently twenty representatives have co-sponsored this bill.”
A link to the full text of the bill can be found here.
This means that a total of ten Republican representatives have discarded their support for the Second Amendment by pushing for far-reaching gun control legislation.
While many in the firearm community have controversially withdrawn their support of bump fire stock possession and other devices designed to simulate a fully automatic rate of fire due to the recent tragedy in Las Vegas, this new bill featuring poorly worded legislation seeks to indirectly implement a blanket ban of nearly every semi-automatic rifle system currently in existence.
While the full text of the proposed bill can be found through the above link, the portion that raises the most concern involves the following verbiage:
“To amend title 18, United States Code, to prohibit the manufacture, possession, or transfer of any part or combination of parts that is designed and functions to increase the rate of fire of a semiautomatic rifle but does not convert the semiautomatic rifle into a machinegun, and for other purposes.”
The vast majority of factory and aftermarket components currently available for semiautomatic rifle platforms are designed to improve performance of the rifle system, allowing the shooter to more effectively place rounds on target in a shorter time span (therefore increasing the effective rate of fire of the rifle).
Possession of virtually all magazines (regardless of capacity), aftermarket triggers, buffers, buffer springs, adjustable gas blocks, and a variety of other components would be immediately rendered illegal through the far-reaching and poorly worded language of this bill.
There is no grandfather clause, with only a ninety-day amnesty period offered prior to enactment of the act.
After that amnesty period nearly every owner of a semiautomatic rifle with a magazine of any capacity would be immediately classified as a criminal.
This bill doesn’t simply apply to bump fire stocks.
It doesn’t just apply to the AR-15.
This bill would apply to semiautomatic .22 squirrel rifles that feed from magazines and feed tubes.
It applies to M1 Garands and their en bloc clips. It applies to aftermarket trigger and gas system upgrades like those offered by fine brands such as Geissele and JP Enterprises.
The gun community has been divided on the bump fire stock question, but we cannot remain divided on this bill.
If it passes, millions of law abiding gun owners will instantly qualify as criminals.
Enforcement of this legislation will likely increase gradually over the next few decades, using this bill as a legal precendent to restrict magazine size, prohibit use of match triggers and components, and eventually push for a comprehensive ban of semiautomatic rifles.Ecclesiastes 10:2 ...........
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October 11th, 2017, 08:51 PM #2
Re: Bill (H.R.3999) to Effectively Ban Most Semi auto Rifles
Join the GOA & save $5.00. https://www.gunowners.org/mac-subs-join-goa.htm
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October 11th, 2017, 08:59 PM #3Grand Member
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Re: Bill (H.R.3999) to Effectively Ban Most Semi auto Rifles
Get ready, the fight is on. The bill is deliberately poorly worded so the ATF can have a field day making up stuff.
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October 11th, 2017, 09:19 PM #4
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I had wondered what James Yeager thought about this kind of legislation. Hmm?
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October 11th, 2017, 09:31 PM #5
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I never cared about what ass holes, morons, and low lives think and I sure wont be starting now.
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October 11th, 2017, 09:42 PM #6Senior Member
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Re: Bill (H.R.3999) to Effectively Ban Most Semi auto Rifles
Shocking... In one breath saying "we don't want your guns" then trying to pass shit like this. There's no common sense what so ever in their logic
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October 11th, 2017, 11:06 PM #7Super Member
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Re: Bill (H.R.3999) to Effectively Ban Most Semi auto Rifles
4 of them are from eastern Pennsylvania. I would like to think that this being PAFOA, that someone here would coordinate a protest outside these turncoats offices. Especially since almost half of them are in our own backyard.
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October 12th, 2017, 09:18 AM #8
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October 12th, 2017, 09:50 AM #9
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October 12th, 2017, 09:54 AM #10
Re: Bill (H.R.3999) to Effectively Ban Most Semi auto Rifles
He's talking about how the NRA wanted to punt the bumpfire decision straight to the atf (to bypass congressional legislation like this) because they wouldn't have much choice but to reaffirm their decision since full auto is clearly defined as one trigger pull = firing of more than one round. It's kinda 4d chess but plausible. The atf has full auto clearly defined and doesn't leave them much of a grey area to say bumpfire is full auto. Jaeger is basically saying I told you so.
Also for the lazy, goto popvox and make an account if you don't and vote NO on this bill, it'll auto generate your email comment to your local congresssmen. https://www.popvox.com/us/federal/bills/115/hr3999
Also we should be calling them at this point to really hammer our stance home.
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