Out of state dl, philly ltcf. Arrested

[Carson]

He has a valid Texas DL and a valid, unrevoked PA LTCF?

There's no criminal charge that applies. People move all the time, and PA does issue LTCF's to non-residents. Our UFA has no requirement that you update your address, it's just a good idea in case the issuing authority wants to revoke it and sends the certified letter to the address on file; you'd want to know about that.
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I have only seen a LTCF from Philadelphia and three surrounding counties that were issued to county residents. Is there anything different about a non-resident LTCF? And do all counties issue non-resident LTCF’s? Not sure if that would make any difference, as long as it was a valid PA LTCF.

[free]

I have only seen a LTCF from Philadelphia and three surrounding counties that were issued to county residents. Is there anything different about a non-resident LTCF?.

There is nothing different about one issued to an out of state resident. It looks exactly the same - at least the one from my issuing county does. I know because once I moved here I updated my address and they sent me a new card that looked just like the first one did.

[Chrono00]

Just to follow up when the "friendly" question about guns knives bazookas drugs in a car is asked what is a proper response? "I refuse to answer the question" that'll invite a roadside argument Yes will get you pulled out of the car and handcuffed, No would be lying and it'll get you pulled out of the car and handcuffed for lying. Assuming I am all legal should I just hand him my LTCF and nod and smile or just invoke my fifth amendment rights and keep my mouth shut for the rest of the conversation? Seems like damned if you do damned if you don't scenario.

Usually the question will be stated along the lines of

Officer: do you have any weapons or drugs in the car?
easiest answer?
You:I don't have any illegal weapons or drugs officer

[free]

Usually the question will be stated along the lines of

Officer: do you have any weapons or drugs in the car?
easiest answer?
You:I don't have any illegal weapons or drugs officer

Alternative Response: I am the weapon.

[PhillySoldier]

He has a valid Texas DL and a valid, unrevoked PA LTCF?

There's no criminal charge that applies. People move all the time, and PA does issue LTCF's to non-residents. Our UFA has no requirement that you update your address, it's just a good idea in case the issuing authority wants to revoke it and sends the certified letter to the address on file; you'd want to know about that.

What may be confusing is that if he had a PA DL and a Texas License To Carry, he'd be in trouble under the current bastardization of the statute, after the PA AG and a court decided that a PA resident doesn't count as a "person".

This is untrue. His LTCF was for being a resident of PA. Once he moved and became a resident of another state, the PA LTCF becomes invalidated. I dont know the grace period Texas gives for the switch over but if you moved into PA from another state you only have like 2 weeks before your out of state permit becomes invalid.

[Statkowski]

This is untrue. His LTCF was for being a resident of PA. Once he moved and became a resident of another state, the PA LTCF becomes invalidated. I dont know the grace period Texas gives for the switch over but if you moved into PA from another state you only have like 2 weeks before your out of state permit becomes invalid.

What you offer sure sounds like something to be argued in a court of law, and I'm sure this particular argument has not yet entered the records of such. One could argue that there's a grace period, but that depends on individual state laws. Pennsylvania law says the LTCF is valid until it expires. Now, getting a new LTCF or getting a Renewal to the LTCF does require one either be a Pennsylvania resident or possess a valid license from one's home state for nonresidents, but in this case neither of those two scenarios applied. He had a lawfully-issued (at the time) LTCF. It had not yet expired. Pennsylvania law appears silent on moving out of state, or returning to Pennsylvania after one has moved out, or anything like that.

[streaker69]

This is untrue. His LTCF was for being a resident of PA. Once he moved and became a resident of another state, the PA LTCF becomes invalidated. I dont know the grace period Texas gives for the switch over but if you moved into PA from another state you only have like 2 weeks before your out of state permit becomes invalid.

You're gonna have to provide some sort of actual citation for that statement.

[PhillySoldier]

Same could be said the other way around...

[free]

This is untrue. His LTCF was for being a resident of PA. Once he moved and became a resident of another state, the PA LTCF becomes invalidated.

Why would it not just become a non-resident LTCF?

Agree with other poster. Cite your source for your statement.

On a side note...with regard to the CCP I had from my previous state, that state's law says that if you move out of state, it is still valid until it expires (and they don't even ISSUE non-resident CCPs)....just for comparison purposes.

[PhillySoldier]

Why would it not just become a non-resident LTCF?

Agree with other poster. Cite your source for your statement.

On a side note...with regard to the CCP I had from my previous state, that state's law says that if you move out of state, it is still valid until it expires (and they don't even ISSUE non-resident CCPs)....just for comparison purposes.

To your first question, I dont have an answer. This would be logical

However he didnt have a non-resident permit, he had a resident permit for which part of the eligibility requirements were that he be a resident of the commonwealth.

Again I dont know what the requirements are w moving INTO Texas but I know moving INTO PA you only have like 15 days to submit for the change.