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    Default Democrats want to expand Prohibited Offensive Weapons Law to include bump stocks

    As expected some Democrats in the PA legislature are introducing a bill to amend the Prohibited offensive weapons law to include bump stocks , binary triggers and “ multiburst trigger activators.”

    http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/...cosponId=24683

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    Default Re: Democrats want to expand Prohibited Offensive Weapons Law to include bump stocks

    Not popping my PMAG tops just yet..

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    Default Re: Democrats want to expand Prohibited Offensive Weapons Law to include bump stocks

    PA's constitution is stronger than the Federal one, "The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State shall not be questioned." No confusing "militia" clause, no wiggle room for "reasonable regulation". Our gun rights can't even be questioned, much less infringed.

    Dingbats from Philly or the other declining urban areas won't lose any votes for supporting feel-good nonsense instead of addressing core problems among their constituents, but any elected official from the rest of the state will get his ass handed to him if he goes along with sacrificing fundamental enumerated rights just for the sake of "doing something", even if what they are doing does nothing except eliminate rights without impacting daily crime.

    In the suburbs and rural zones, a majority understands that bad people do bad things, that carelessly fathered boys without substantial parenting will run wild and cause problems until they are stopped by police and the courts, or an unexpectedly armed victim who kills them in self-defense. Anybody who's serious about addressing crime has to look at WHY thugs with short attention spans do bad things, not HOW they do those things. We can't coddle young criminals, offer incentives for dysfunctional child-bearing, import lawless thugs from 3rd world countries and angry Muslim jihadists, and then make murder go away by putting child locks on the entire private sector.

    Philly accounts for about half of serious Pennsylvania crimes, with just 10% of the state population. We'd have to be idiots to let them lead the way to the future.
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    Default Re: Democrats want to expand Prohibited Offensive Weapons Law to include bump stocks

    Phil--

    Well said! I will be writing emails tonight to the PA legislature and telling them to keep their hangs off any new legislation.

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    Default Re: Democrats want to expand Prohibited Offensive Weapons Law to include bump stocks

    Quote Originally Posted by eagleclaw View Post
    As expected some Democrats in the PA legislature are introducing a bill to amend the Prohibited offensive weapons law to include bump stocks , binary triggers and “ multiburst trigger activators.”

    http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/...cosponId=24683

    http://www.pennlive.com/capitol-note...rt_river_index

    Don't be so quick to give the REPUBLICAN's in PA a pass for their efforts to also enact gun control.

    Example is REPUBLICAN senator Patrick Browne



    http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/...cosponId=24689

    MEMORANDUM

    Posted:
    October 6, 2017 04:24 PM
    From:
    Senator Patrick M. Browne
    To:
    All Senate members
    Subject:
    Make "Bump Stocks" Illegal in Pennsylvania
    *
    In the near future, I plan to introduce legislation that will make it illegal in Pennsylvania to import, purchase, sell, manufacture, transfer or possess what are commonly referred to as "bump stocks."

    As you are aware, the tragic and unthinkable mass shooting in Las Vegas earlier this week was exacerbated by the use of these "bump stocks."

    My legislation will amend the prohibited offensive weapons statute in Title 18 (PA Crimes Code) in two ways:
    1 - Define "bump stocks" as any apparatus which accelerates the cyclic firing rate of a semi-automatic firearm.
    2 - Makes it illegal to import, purchase, sell, manufacture, transfer or possess these "bump stock" apparatuses.

    Please join me in co-sponsoring this important legislation to prohibit these unnecessary apparatus and protect the citizens of Pennsylvania and visitors to this great Commonwealth.


    BTW § 908. *Prohibited offensive weapons is probably the most poorly worded section of PA law, that really needs a re-write especially with clarification on knifes and stun guns.



    Don't forget all the REPUBLICAN's at the federal level that are also not freedoms friends, many will also not support the 2nd A other than giving a lip service with "politician's promise" before election day.


    http://time.com/4970720/bump-stocks-ban-how-work/

    What Are Bump Stocks? Gun Accessory Could Be Banned After Las Vegas Shooting


    Senior Republicans in Congress are considering a bill that would ban “bump stocks” — gun accessories the Las Vegas shooter apparently used to turn semi-automatic weapons into more rapid-fire machine guns.

    A handful of Republican congressional legislators have shown interest in a bill that would stop shooters from essentially converting semi-automatic weapons into fully automatic ones by using bump stocks. Stephen Paddock, the gunman who killed 58 people and wounded more than 500 others Sunday at a Las Vegas music festival, had two bump stocks in his possession, officials told the Associated Press.

    “An American concert venue has now become a battlefield,” said California Sen. Dianne Feinstein, who introduced the bump stock bill Wednesday. “No one should be able to easily and cheaply modify legal weapons into what are essentially machine guns.”

    The National Rifle Association (NRA) on Thursday said the devices should be "subject to additional regulations."

    Here’s what to know about bump stocks and what they can do:
    What are bump stocks?

    Bump stocks are cheap and legal accessories that can be installed in semi-automatic weapons, allowing gun owners to fire rapidly without having to pull the trigger for each bullet.

    If handled properly, a bump stock could increase the rate of fire from between 45 and 60 rounds per minute to between 400 and 800 rounds per minute, Feinstein said in a news release. It’s typically easy to buy the piece, which can sell for about $50 to $400.

    But Slide Fire — considered one of the main manufacturers of the bump stock — said on its website this week that it has “decided to temporarily suspend taking new orders in order to provide the best service with those already placed.” Slide Fire did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

    Authorities have not named the manufacturer of the bump stocks Paddock owned.

    The device is still available elsewhere, including on Amazon. It was initially meant to help gun owners who have limited hand mobility, according to the AP.

    How do bump stocks work?

    Bump stocks are difficult to operate and are unpopular among gun enthusiasts, gun expert Paul Glasco told TIME on Thursday. “Real gun guys don’t use them for anything,” said Glasco, an NRA-certified instructor who stars in a local Louisiana TV show, Legally Armed America.

    Bump stocks replace the semi-automatic’s butt stock and pistol grip. They use the recoil of the gun to fire multiple rounds in rapid succession. “It, in essence, bounces off your body,” Glasco said.

    But in order to get the gun to fire, a shooter has to simultaneously push the handle grip closest to the barrel forward while pulling the handle grip closest to the body backward. “It’s an unnatural motion to push and pull at the same time,” Glasco said. “It’s like you’re ripping something apart.”

    A shooter would have to maintain that motion the entire time, gripping the gun with both hands — not just merely holding it. He would also have to resist the intense recoil, which pushes the torso backward, as well as the heat that radiates from the barrel.

    It would be tough to accurately hit a target, even for an advanced marksman, Glasco said. “It’s not as easy as people think it is,” he said. “It’s tiring and very hard to control. Because of the posture of your body, and how you have to hold it to your body, it’s difficult to shoot.”

    Inexperienced gun owners might buy a bump stock if they can’t afford or manage to get their hands on a fully automatic weapon, which are expensive and scarce because they are largely illegal. “It’s simply a novelty,” Glasco said, adding that a fully automatic weapon can sell for $50,000 to $100,000. “It’s totally ineffective. I call it a poor man’s machine gun.”

    Are bump stocks legal?

    Bump stocks are legal in America, as are semiautomatic weapons. Fully automatic weapons, which fire in rapid succession without the need to pull the trigger individually, are illegal under the National Firearms Act. But those registered with the government before 1986 can still be legally bought, owned and sold if the transaction goes through the proper federal channels.

    On Wednesday, more than two-dozen Democratic lawmakers moved to ban bump stocks through the bill Feinstein introduced.

    Republican Sens. John Cornyn and Ron Johnson are among the few GOP lawmakers considering moving forward with the ban legislation. Cornyn told reporters there’s an “obvious concern” about bump stocks after the Las Vegas shooting, according to the AP.

    "I own a lot of guns and as a hunter and sportsman I think that's our right as Americans, but I don't understand the use of this bump stock and that's another reason to have a hearing,” he said.
    Johnson added: "I have no problem in banning those.”

    No where you will read all of these same Republicans working on lifting the 1986 ban or supporting the hearing protection act.

    Never forget just because someone owns "some" guns doesn't automatically make them pro-gun, double that warning when it comes to politicians.
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