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September 30th, 2017, 05:18 AM #1
Road rage leads to gun pulled, motorcycle run over
Not sure where to put this, mods move if need be.
http://www.chillicothegazette.com/st...ver/716215001/
[Ohio]According to Chillicothe police, a 24-year-old Chillicothe man said he was driving his motorcycle west on West Water Street about 1:30 p.m. when he was cut off by a gold Chevy sedan near High Street.
He swerved to miss the car, pulled up beside it and yelled at the driver to "use your turn signals." Afterward, the driver of the sedan followed behind him and intentionally rammed him when he slowed for traffic ahead when approaching Vine Street.
The impact caused his motorcycle to tip over. As he got off the motorcycle, the man said the driver of the Sedan got out, punched him in the side of his helmet, and tried to get him to fight., according to the police report. The motorcyclist — who is a concealed carry permit holder — pulled out his pistol and told the driver to get back in his car.
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September 30th, 2017, 07:54 AM #2
Re: Road rage leads to gun pulled, motorcycle run over
This is my opinion on it.
Justified because he didn't shoot the guy, he was assaulted with a deadly weapon, disoriented from being intentionally wrecked.
Honestly, I might have shot the fucker for crashing me on purpose.Go sell crazy some where else, we're all stocked up here.
Political power grows from the muzzle of a gun.
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September 30th, 2017, 08:03 AM #3
Re: Road rage leads to gun pulled, motorcycle run over
The short news article I linked I'm sure doesn't tell us everything but from what is there it's hard for me to say how I would have handled it. My gut says, don't pull a firearm you're carrying unless you absolutely need to and if you plan to use it. I've never thought about carrying my gun just to point it at someone. The rider wasn't charged with anything yet, maybe the police thought it was a justified use of his firearm?
Si vis pacem, para bellumμολ ν λαβέWhat country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms!
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September 30th, 2017, 08:22 AM #4
Re: Road rage leads to gun pulled, motorcycle run over
Defensive displays of firearms account for the vast majority of successful defensive "uses" of guns. That's just a fact, backed up by every research study, and by news accounts, and by empirical data, and by common sense. Finding out that the guy you wanted to beat up is armed, will obviously alter the dynamic.
Trying to argue that the majority of people saving themselves represent some indefensible abuse of carrying, is an uphill battle.Attorney Phil Kline, AKA gunlawyer001@gmail.com
Ce sac n'est pas un jouet.
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September 30th, 2017, 08:49 AM #5
Re: Road rage leads to gun pulled, motorcycle run over
The driver used a 4000 pound weapon to try and kill the rider, and when that didn't work he punched him in the head (even a low speed wreck can kill). He was certainly justified to clear leather while trying to prevent further injury to himself.
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September 30th, 2017, 08:51 AM #7
Re: Road rage leads to gun pulled, motorcycle run over
Nobody (here) would argue that the majority of people saving themselves represent indefensible abuses of carrying. This case is *not* whether the majority of people saving themselves are indefensible abuses of carrying. We can grant that assumption. At the same time, we should ask the question of this case is: "Did *this* motorcyclist, given the circumstances of *this* particular situation, act in a way that would place him in the category of successful and justified displays of a firearm, or is this a case that belongs in the category of indefensible abuses of a firearm"? I believe that's what the OP is asking.
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September 30th, 2017, 09:29 AM #8
Re: Road rage leads to gun pulled, motorcycle run over
Again, empirical evidence is useful; in fact, a few PAFOA members have repeatedly asserted that you never pull a gun unless you're definitely going to shoot. Which is why the majority of defensive uses being "displays" is relevant, and why they are wrong to declare that drawing a gun is only useful because you have to do that before you pull the trigger.
Attorney Phil Kline, AKA gunlawyer001@gmail.com
Ce sac n'est pas un jouet.
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September 30th, 2017, 09:03 AM #9
Re: Road rage leads to gun pulled, motorcycle run over
Bastard was probably showing off for the woman.I hope they can catch him somehow....as for the motorcyclist,he showed some real self control in not shooting the guy after nearly being run over while on his bike.
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September 30th, 2017, 09:07 AM #10
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