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    Default Re: Why getting a gun permit in Philly isn't exactly bang-bang | Stu Bykofsky

    Quote Originally Posted by raxar View Post
    Care to explain what use the government has with fingerprints outside of criminal investigation?

    You think they want your fingerprints so they'll have an easier time identifying your corpse?
    It is a criminal background check, both for LTCF and the youth protection.
    Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges

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    Default Re: Why getting a gun permit in Philly isn't exactly bang-bang | Stu Bykofsky

    Viper got cheated, in the paper, the physical one, the picture has Stu standing with Mark.
    Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges

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    Default Re: Why getting a gun permit in Philly isn't exactly bang-bang | Stu Bykofsky

    Delco was a minor pain, Philly was a major hassle.

    The wait times are terrible. Even if you show up before they open there is already a line and it might be 15 minutes before they get to the first person. I bailed twice because the wait list was so long it was obvious I'd be there all day and might not be seen before close. Finally made it with only 5 people ahead of me and it was still a 1.5 hr wait before the interview.

    For pickup I was 4th and it was 40 minutes before I was called in and over an hour before all was said and done.


    I suppose I could say at least the employees were friendly, if not fast. The Delco woman was not particularly friendly...

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    Default Re: Why getting a gun permit in Philly isn't exactly bang-bang | Stu Bykofsky

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparks View Post
    Viper got cheated, in the paper, the physical one, the picture has Stu standing with Mark.
    My grandfather texted me this morning, "Did you see your picture in the paper this morning?" Blew me away.
    Junior

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    Default Re: Why getting a gun permit in Philly isn't exactly bang-bang | Stu Bykofsky

    All of these require finger printing outside a criminal investigation
    http://www.pa.cogentid.com/index.htm



    Teachers, school administrators, student teachers,
    independent contractors, etc

    Nursing students, child care facility operators/staff, social
    service workers, hospital personnel,librarians, doctors, etc.
    Office of Medical Assistance applicants should NOT register here

    PennDOT Employees


    Lethal Weapons Training Program (LWTA)

    Bankers

    Office of Medical Assistance(OMAP) applicants,
    Fee For Service Provider Enrollment


    Long Term Care Employment, lived in Pennsylvania
    for less than 2 years

    Hazmat Endorsement

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    Default Re: Why getting a gun permit in Philly isn't exactly bang-bang | Stu Bykofsky

    Quote Originally Posted by X Hunter View Post
    All of these require finger printing outside a criminal investigation
    http://www.pa.cogentid.com/index.htm



    Teachers, school administrators, student teachers,
    independent contractors, etc

    Nursing students, child care facility operators/staff, social
    service workers, hospital personnel,librarians, doctors, etc.
    Office of Medical Assistance applicants should NOT register here

    PennDOT Employees


    Lethal Weapons Training Program (LWTA)

    Bankers

    Office of Medical Assistance(OMAP) applicants,
    Fee For Service Provider Enrollment


    Long Term Care Employment, lived in Pennsylvania
    for less than 2 years

    Hazmat Endorsement
    And recently because of Wolfe anyone working with children I.E. Senior members working with Cadets in Civil Air Patrol, I am sure scouts have this as well.

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    Default Re: Why getting a gun permit in Philly isn't exactly bang-bang | Stu Bykofsky

    Quote Originally Posted by Carson View Post
    You must not really know anything about Stu. I thought the article was rather straightforward and actually pro gun as compared to the other article he references by Helen Urbanis.

    And from reading on here, Philadelphia is not the only county in PA that doesn't offer 20 minute drive thru service.

    Also anyone planning on being involved with children in a semi official capacity, simply even chaperoning school trips, will get fingerprinted. It's not criminal. Just saying.
    46 days in delco. I got mine in a couple days though

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    Default Re: Why getting a gun permit in Philly isn't exactly bang-bang | Stu Bykofsky

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparks View Post
    It is a criminal background check, both for LTCF and the youth protection.
    Quote Originally Posted by X Hunter View Post
    All of these require finger printing outside a criminal investigation
    http://www.pa.cogentid.com/index.htm



    Teachers, school administrators, student teachers,
    independent contractors, etc

    Nursing students, child care facility operators/staff, social
    service workers, hospital personnel,librarians, doctors, etc.
    Office of Medical Assistance applicants should NOT register here

    PennDOT Employees


    Lethal Weapons Training Program (LWTA)

    Bankers

    Office of Medical Assistance(OMAP) applicants,
    Fee For Service Provider Enrollment


    Long Term Care Employment, lived in Pennsylvania
    for less than 2 years

    Hazmat Endorsement
    What exactly do you guys think they do with the fingerprints? They look to see if they match any from previous criminal investigations (including arrest records), and include them in the database for future criminal investigations.

    They have NO other reason to collect them.

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    Default Re: Why getting a gun permit in Philly isn't exactly bang-bang | Stu Bykofsky

    Quote Originally Posted by raxar View Post
    What exactly do you guys think they do with the fingerprints? They look to see if they match any from previous criminal investigations (including arrest records), and include them in the database for future criminal investigations.
    Gee, isn't that why they have PICS?

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    Default Re: Why getting a gun permit in Philly isn't exactly bang-bang | Stu Bykofsky

    Quote Originally Posted by Statkowski View Post
    Gee, isn't that why they have PICS?
    PICS just tells you the background of the person whose info you gave them. Fingerprinting can tell you if that person is who they say they are or some kiddie fiddler using a fake id while he is registering to be the playground monitor at the local school. Because no one ever tries to be someone else?

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