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  1. #11
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    Default Re: Federal concealed-carry bill would make Jersey more dangerous -- True or Fales??

    An even more important question is who wants to go into the PRNJ?

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    Default Re: Federal concealed-carry bill would make Jersey more dangerous -- True or Fales??

    That entire article is one giant STRAWMAN.

    All the statistics the author cites, all of the empirical data about guns and crime, have absolutely NOTHING to do with the ~13 million carry permit holders in the country who are roughly 4-7 times more law abiding than police officers.

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    Default Re: Federal concealed-carry bill would make Jersey more dangerous -- True or Fales??

    Quote Originally Posted by American1776 View Post
    That entire article is one giant STRAWMAN.

    All the statistics the author cites, all of the empirical data about guns and crime, have absolutely NOTHING to do with the ~13 million carry permit holders in the country who are roughly 4-7 times more law abiding than police officers.
    And the empirical data is hardly such. The anti gun zealots have been trotting out the ambiguous 33,000 number for years, but the number includes, suicides, justifiable shootings by police and civilians, and accidental shootings. The number of murders are not even half the misleading number stated. But as you said, the number is irrelevant to the 93 million lawful firearm owners in our nation.

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    Default Re: Federal concealed-carry bill would make Jersey more dangerous -- True or Fales??

    Lies. In first paragraph alone, there wasn't a single true statement. Including leading cause of death for children. As of few years ago, firearms weren't even in top 15 causes. Not this mention, the vast majority of said children are inner city gang members, that got killed because of the lifestyle they chose.
    Je suis déplorable

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    Default Re: Federal concealed-carry bill would make Jersey more dangerous -- True or Fales??

    I figured out one group it would be more dangerous to, Anti-gun politicians. More than likely to populous would rise up and demand to carry too.
    USNRET '61-'81

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    Default Re: Federal concealed-carry bill would make Jersey more dangerous -- True or Fales??

    That is how it should be. Don't want your state citizens to carry or own firearms? Great, but as a US citizen it should not affect me as a visitor or non-permanent resident of NJ.

    Don't like all the armed passing through people while your citizens are defenseless, then they should prevent you from passing inane laws.
    It is you. You have all the weapons that you need. Now fight. --Sucker Punch

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    Default Re: Federal concealed-carry bill would make Jersey more dangerous -- True or Fales??

    Does NJ have a problem honoring a driver's license from Texas or a marriage license from Kentucky?
    While states do have rights, The US constitution and bill of rights is not something they they get to legislate.

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    Default Re: Federal concealed-carry bill would make Jersey more dangerous -- True or Fales??

    Quote Originally Posted by Coops View Post
    Does NJ have a problem honoring a driver's license from Texas or a marriage license from Kentucky?
    Nope!
    Gun Owners of America lifetime member! Same sex marriage is an oxymoron!

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