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September 17th, 2008, 09:12 AM #1Member
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Spouses/ Gifting a Handgun Questions
Fisrt time posting here!!
Hey all-
I'm going to be possibly obtaining a hangun from my sister. I understand I will have to go to the gun shop with her to get it legally transferred. Here is my question-
As of right now I am engaged-and we both have a LTCF
When I am married, could my wife and I each carry the gun at different times if we wanted to? If the gun is registered under my name, can she legally carry the gun to the store? From the laws I read, she could simply say that I gave the gun to her as a gift if she was stopped by a LEO. Would I be correct?
Thanks!
Mark
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September 17th, 2008, 09:58 AM #2
Re: Spouses/ Gifting a Handgun Questions
As I understand it, a person can carry a gun that is loaned to them. So the need for your wife to say it was gifted to her is not necessary. Just that it was loaned to her by you...if the question would even come up.
She has a LTCF, so no problem there.Last edited by HiredGoon; September 17th, 2008 at 10:01 AM.
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September 17th, 2008, 10:22 AM #3
Re: Spouses/ Gifting a Handgun Questions
I'm sure I don't have to say this, but everything here is an opinion, not official legal advice.
If you want to gift the handgun to your wife for it to be "hers", you can so without an FFL, as the laws prohibiting the transfer of ownership without an FFL have exceptions for spouse-to-spouse, parent-to-child, and grandparent-to-grandchild. This assumes your wife isn't legally prohibited from owning a firearm; if for some reason she is, then all bets are off.
HOWEVER, understand that none of the above is allowed until you and your fiancee are legally married. If you transfer a handgun to her without an FFL prior to your marriage, you and your wife will be committing a straw purchase.
As far as loaning a weapon, I just briefly reviewed Title 18, §6115 pertaining to loaning firearms and it's about as clear as mud to me. As your wife, I believe it's OK to loan her a weapon as long as she's not prohibited from possessing a weapon. She can even carry it as long as she's legally able, which doesn't seem like a problem if she has an LTCF. As for loaning to anyone else, or loaning to her prior to your marriage, I'm not 100% sure. I'd play it safe and not do so until you're married."Political Correctness is just tyranny with manners"
-Charlton Heston
"[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
-James Madison, Federalist Papers, No. 46.
"America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy." [sic]
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September 17th, 2008, 10:36 AM #4
Re: Spouses/ Gifting a Handgun Questions
Yes, spouses can carry each others guns.
Two reasons.
1) Your License to Carry Firearms (LTCF) exempts you from the prohibition on loaning handguns. IOW, you can loan a handgun to anyone with a LTCF.
Ref: 18PACS6115(b)(i)
2) Spouses are exempt from the requirement of "transferring" ownership of handguns at an FFL. IOW, no paperwork required.
Ref: 18PACS6111(c)_________________________________________
danbus wrote: ...Like I said before, I open carry because you don't, I fight for all my rights because
you won't, I will not sit with my thumb up my bum and complain, because you will.
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September 17th, 2008, 11:26 AM #5
Re: Spouses/ Gifting a Handgun Questions
"Political Correctness is just tyranny with manners"
-Charlton Heston
"[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
-James Madison, Federalist Papers, No. 46.
"America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy." [sic]
-John Quincy Adams
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies."
-Thomas Jefferson
Μολών λαβέ!
-King Leonidas
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September 17th, 2008, 04:41 PM #6Member
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Re: Spouses/ Gifting a Handgun Questions
Thanks for all the input! I greatly appreciate it!!
-Mark
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September 17th, 2008, 05:36 PM #7
Re: Spouses/ Gifting a Handgun Questions
If the gun is registered under my name ...
... she could simply say that I gave the gun to her as a gift if she was stopped by a LEO.
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September 19th, 2008, 03:37 PM #8
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September 19th, 2008, 04:01 PM #9
Re: Spouses/ Gifting a Handgun Questions
caa, that is correct. LTCF holders can loan guns to each other.
Ron USAF Ret E-8 FFL01/SOT3 NRA Benefactor Member
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September 20th, 2008, 08:03 AM #10
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