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    Default Constitutional Carry

    What are the chances that PA will become a Constitutional Carry state? Just curious what everyones thoughts are on the issue?

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    Default Re: Constitutional Carry

    As long as Tom Wolf is governor, zilch.

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    Default Re: Constitutional Carry

    I think there is little chance of Constitutional Carry in PA. We are one of the most nonrestrictive states when it comes carrying firearms. We can open carry anywhere in the state except that in Philly one has to have a LTCF to OC. Obtaining a LTCF is relatively easy. Generall, if you can pass the federal background check to purchase a gun, you can get a LTCF in PA. I think that lessens motivation of legislators to enact Constitutional Carry. I wish they would, but I doubt they will.

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    Default Re: Constitutional Carry

    And you can bet that all the left wing representatives from the big cities will try to block it at every turn.

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    IMHO their isn't a chance of that happening as long as we keep electing the political critters that we have in office now
    The oracle is in. Age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill!!

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    Default Re: Constitutional Carry

    Quote Originally Posted by allenr View Post
    I think there is little chance of Constitutional Carry in PA. We are one of the most nonrestrictive states when it comes carrying firearms. We can open carry anywhere in the state except that in Philly one has to have a LTCF to OC. Obtaining a LTCF is relatively easy. Generall, if you can pass the federal background check to purchase a gun, you can get a LTCF in PA. I think that lessens motivation of legislators to enact Constitutional Carry. I wish they would, but I doubt they will.
    I'd agree with this. PA ltcf is only $20 with no training requirements. Compare that to other states and we have it pretty good, except for the Constitutional carry ones. I just don't see enough push to get it through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allenr View Post
    I think there is little chance of Constitutional Carry in PA. We are one of the most nonrestrictive states when it comes carrying firearms. We can open carry anywhere in the state except that in Philly one has to have a LTCF to OC. Obtaining a LTCF is relatively easy. Generall, if you can pass the federal background check to purchase a gun, you can get a LTCF in PA. I think that lessens motivation of legislators to enact Constitutional Carry. I wish they would, but I doubt they will.
    Quote Originally Posted by R L Suehr View Post
    I'd agree with this. PA ltcf is only $20 with no training requirements. Compare that to other states and we have it pretty good, except for the Constitutional carry ones. I just don't see enough push to get it through.
    Embracing that argument is really no different than saying "We only want Common Sense Gun Laws" --- Constitutional Carry is what OUR CONSTITUTION specifies - Any restriction, on law-abiding citizens to exercise their Art. 1, Sec. 21, recognized Right, _IS_ Questioning that Right & Infringing on it...

    This is an inalienable Right because it is NOT created by NOR conferred from any government or NOR even from your fellow citizens --- We might have to live with the government violating our Rights until we can change the government, but let's NEVER FORGET that THEY _ARE_ INFRINGING UPON OUR RIGHTS!!!

    Having it 'pretty good' compared to how other states are INFRINGING on their citizens' Rights should never be an acceptable argument for lack of interest in seeing ALL INFRINGEMENT END within the state of which we are citizens... Our citizenship in PA, and the Right to be treated properly (Constitutionally) by our government, should not be minimized by accepting 'pretty good' treatment as SUBJECTS OF THE STATE...

    Why can't 2018 be the year that PA joins the other states who have properly moved forward with (or back to) the reality of Constitutional Carry???

    %%%
    Last edited by ImminentDanger; January 7th, 2018 at 03:40 AM.

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    Default Re: Constitutional Carry

    Quote Originally Posted by allenr View Post
    I think there is little chance of Constitutional Carry in PA. We are one of the most nonrestrictive states when it comes carrying firearms. We can open carry anywhere in the state except that in Philly one has to have a LTCF to OC. Obtaining a LTCF is relatively easy. Generall, if you can pass the federal background check to purchase a gun, you can get a LTCF in PA. I think that lessens motivation of legislators to enact Constitutional Carry. I wish they would, but I doubt they will.
    We have it very good. That's why i have my doubts and i have reservations on reciprocity among the states.
    Sorry for the post drift.

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    Default Re: Constitutional Carry

    PA has loose enough restrictions that most gun owners aren't feeling desperate for something better. There simply isn't a big enough push for it among those who want it. So if the ones who want it aren't pushing very hard there is no chance.
    Sic semper tyrannis

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    Default Re: Constitutional Carry

    Pushing for any perceived loosening of gun laws is held back by fear....fear that others, poised to advance their anti-gun agendas, will rise up and prevail in an anti-gun court, making matters worse. Or, in the case of elected officials, fear of losing re-election and financial assistance from sources of monies.

    Reading the Commonwealth's constitutional provision and comparing that with the situation as it exists, there is but one explanation. Corruption.
    Last edited by Bang; September 19th, 2017 at 12:38 PM.

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