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Thread: Constitutional Carry
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September 19th, 2017, 06:01 PM #11
Re: Constitutional Carry
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September 19th, 2017, 09:26 PM #12
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September 19th, 2017, 10:15 PM #13
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September 20th, 2017, 06:14 AM #14
Re: Constitutional Carry
Hi Badger Tuff, i would like to see national reciprocity. But i feel that would be an opportunity for anti gun dems, people or whoever to take it and use it to further restrict us. Let's take, oh take p.r.n.j. for an example. First i would hate to be the poor slob to be found with a ccw after national recip goes into effect. Instant arrest regardless of the laws.
I see n.j. saying, ok you got nat recip now this is how it's going to be.
1. No hollow points
2. No more than ten round magazines or ten rounds in your mag.
3. Waiting Periods extended
4. Gun Permits and Registration. This would be a big one in my book gun registration.
5. Background Checks. Extended
6. Bans on Certain Types of Guns
7. etc..etc..etc..
This is just an example of what i think n.j would do. But we have Mass,Conn,N.Y.Cali.etc
REMEMBER WE ARE TALKING ABOUT COUNTRY WIDE.
we have it very good here in the Commonwealth of PA. Don't think these states and others would be chomping at the bit to just reign us bad bad gun totin gun owners in.
IMHO; i believe that would change.... again just my opinion.
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September 21st, 2017, 08:10 AM #15
Re: Constitutional Carry
Ok, got it. What if there could be no restrictions? Like my permit says I can CC any way I want and as many rounds as I want and your state can't change that. You know, I just had a second thought here, you're right this could lead to a Federal CCP with all kinds of restrictions.
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September 21st, 2017, 11:13 AM #16
Re: Constitutional Carry
IMO, if they did pass it, states like NJ, NY and Kali would always be a headache. BUT, if you played by their rules you could carry legally without to much concern for arrest.
Biggest annoyance in NJ would be no HP, but thats easily circumvented but carrying filled tip HP ammo. 15rd gives you a headache if you carry double stack nine but again, I would take buying a mag for NJ versus not being able to carry at all. Or just carry .40
At the very least, it would shine a flood light on the ridiculousness of states like NJ being forced to allow out of state permit holders to carry but prohibiting in state peons from carrying.Una Salus Victis Nullam Sperare Salutem
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September 21st, 2017, 12:53 PM #17
Re: Constitutional Carry
I would say establishing something like a national CCW, would not be a good idea. That could easily be abused in the future. Reciprocity can be done, just like drivers licenses or marriage licenses our now. There's different regulations in each state for it, but they are honored by all states. That's much harder to screw with in the future imho.
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January 3rd, 2018, 07:03 PM #18
Re: Constitutional Carry
Embracing that argument is really no different than saying "We only want Common Sense Gun Laws" --- Constitutional Carry is what OUR CONSTITUTION specifies - Any restriction, on law-abiding citizens to exercise their Art. 1, Sec. 21, recognized Right, _IS_ Questioning that Right & Infringing on it...
This is an inalienable Right because it is NOT created by NOR conferred from any government or NOR even from your fellow citizens --- We might have to live with the government violating our Rights until we can change the government, but let's NEVER FORGET that THEY _ARE_ INFRINGING UPON OUR RIGHTS!!!
Having it 'pretty good' compared to how other states are INFRINGING on their citizens' Rights should never be an acceptable argument for lack of interest in seeing ALL INFRINGEMENT END within the state of which we are citizens... Our citizenship in PA, and the Right to be treated properly (Constitutionally) by our government, should not be minimized by accepting 'pretty good' treatment as SUBJECTS OF THE STATE...
Why can't 2018 be the year that PA joins the other states who have properly moved forward with (or back to) the reality of Constitutional Carry???
%%%Last edited by ImminentDanger; January 7th, 2018 at 03:40 AM.
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