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    Default Taurus 85 back from factory second time still not working VIDEO

    UPDATE #2: Back from factory for the 2nd time, 6 months after sending in for the first repair and it still isn't working. They couldn't replicate the problem. Funny because now I've decided to document video proof that the malfunction is indeed happening. Horrible customer service and worthless gunsmiths over at Taurus.




    UPDATE - Still disappointed after it was return from repair not fixed. Read post #42. Update #2 at post 70.

    I owned a Taurus 1911 at one point and liked the features, fit and finish and trigger pull for the money. But I could never get it to run 100%. Spent too much time messing with recoil spring weights and different slide stops. I chalked it up to 1911s being finicky and sold it for a Glock 21 which of course has been 100%.

    With somewhat of a need for a snubby, the current $40 rebate for the Taurus 85 got my interest. The full steel model would be able to tame some recoil which I'd struggled with shooting other snubbies and the price was right. I went to check it out and said I'd only buy if it blew me away (as much as a $200 gun could). Well it did! The fit and finish was great, tight lockup, great SA and DA trigger pull. And for $209-$40, how could I go wrong?

    Before going to the range I did some dry fire practice and saw the cylinder sputter on a DA pull. The trigger pulled but the cylinder didn't rotate. Did I short stroke it? User error? Of course for a DA revolver you need to let the trigger all the way out each pull, not like an auto shooting from reset. I head to the range...

    It shot great for 6 cylinders or so and then the problem started happening. The trigger was pulled but the cylinder didn't rotate which produced a click rather than a bang. Sure if you pull again you'll get a second chance and the cylinder will probably rotate. Like I said - I was pulling and releasing fully, so between the frequency of malfunction and my awareness of how to shoot a DA revolver - I don't think it was my fault (never happened to me when shooting Ruger revolvers..)

    So at my estimation 6-8% of the time this happens in DA. Should I care? My intended use for this is to throw in a jacket pocket in the winter months to have a concealed hand on a gun and shoot through a pocket at contact distances. This would always be my BUG and never my primary. Obviously Taurus has the lifetime warranty but I've heard they make you pay for shipping, and can have your gun for 4-6 weeks. Pretty annoying for a brand new gun. Maybe I should have wised up and expected this from Taurus... but like I said I really WANT to like them...

    Before just living with it or calling customer service on Monday to see my options... does anyone have any troubleshooting tips for a revolver cylinder not rotating upon DA trigger pull?
    Last edited by jthrelf; March 1st, 2018 at 05:05 PM. Reason: Update after being returned from factory second time VIDEO

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    Default Re: I really want to like Taurus...

    Paw not engaging star. Burr? Spring? Bad star? Is it always same spot? Open her up and look. If its like a smith, tap the frame grip area, with wood handle and grips removed. Don't pry. It pops up when you tap on frame.

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    Default Re: I really want to like Taurus...

    I have been seriously tempted to buy one of these lately considering the price, myself. But in the back of my mind I always thought "It is a Taurus, though". But I would also talk myself out of that thought because it's a wheel gun. Well, earlier today Target World posted the LC9S for ~$100 more than the Model 85 and the Ruger has positive reviews all over the place. After all, my intended use is much the same in a deep concealment/pocket/ankle/center console carry piece. Hell, if I like it enough I might have to rotate it in more. I'm glad I read this, though, because it has dramatically changed my thinking.

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    Default Re: I really want to like Taurus...

    The only reason to like Taurus is that they are cheaper than top tier manufacturers. I would rather spend the extra money up front and not deal with the issues every Taurus owner I know has dealt with.

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    Default Re: I really want to like Taurus...

    Seems strange. Other brands do well marketing products made in Brazil. Sounds like the potential is there, company just needs a shake-up...if the percentages of bad warrant it.

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    Default Re: I really want to like Taurus...

    The Brazilian military and police still buy revolvers from Smith & Wesson , not Taurus.

    The Brazilian military used to buy 1911A1s from Colt until Imbel (who made SAInc 1911A1s) started production.
    I don't speak English , I talk American!

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    Default Re: I really want to like Taurus...

    I still can't bring myself to part with my 9 year old PT709. Only Taurus I've ever owned though. If the new ones are as good as mine has been, they are a steal @ 200 bucks.
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    Default Re: I really want to like Taurus...

    Quote Originally Posted by abner13 View Post
    The Brazilian military and police still buy revolvers from Smith & Wesson , not Taurus.

    The Brazilian military used to buy 1911A1s from Colt until Imbel (who made SAInc 1911A1s) started production.
    Source?
    I thought their military still had some old colts and mainly use the PT92?

    I’m just wondering which models of revolver a military would want in their arsenal.

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    Default Re: I really want to like Taurus...

    Well, I guess the usual meaningful difference between Taurus and Ruger/Smith revolvers is the tolerances are not as tight. That could play into the action not resetting when it should, but I think it's more likely to be user error, especially if you're used to 1911 and striker fire which will always have less force x distance.

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    Default Re: I really want to like Taurus...

    The reality of Taurus is that you get what you pay for.
    They make a borderline to down right shitty product.
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