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Thread: Help with FB discussion
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September 8th, 2017, 02:42 PM #31Grand Member
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Re: Help with FB discussion
Personally I would have been polite as possible.. but I don't consent to unlawful searches.... or offering more information than they need to know without the presence of atty.. whether accused or not..
Driving an decommissed Charger with the spotlight and possible BDU's.... also probably didn't help the situation..
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September 8th, 2017, 10:05 PM #32
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September 8th, 2017, 10:18 PM #33Super Member
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I think that's backwards, the cop should make the citizen feel at ease. The cop has a gun, handcuffs and the power to arrest, what does the citizen have?
to serve and protect
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September 9th, 2017, 12:23 AM #34
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September 9th, 2017, 12:44 AM #35
Re: Help with FB discussion
I'm not slamming you, though there are some long-time members here who would. You're gonna want to spend some time reading through the archives to see why:
a) there is ZERO reason for them to determine if the gun is legal. Unless they have a reasonable articulable suspicion that you stole the gun, and they want to check the serial number against a list of stolen firearms, any other research into the gun (e.g. running the number against the "not a registry" Record of Sale database to see if you bought it) is inappropriate.
b) anyone fingerf#$%ing an unfamiliar gun at the roadside (or, alternately, on a SEPTA subway platform http://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.php?t=216917 ) is a screaming invitation for a negligent discharge. There are enough incidents of guns firing in the holster when the wearer is handling the gun - how much more likely is it when someone *other* than the wearer tries to get it out? Especially from a snug IWB holster?
c) the best way to handle your gun is to NOT. "Officer(s), the safest place for any gun is in its holster with the trigger covered. How about I leave mine in my holster and you do the same?"
Other lessons are all over the forum. These were jus the first few to come to mind.
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September 9th, 2017, 03:32 AM #36
Re: Help with FB discussion
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How can you have any cookies if you don't drink your milk?
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September 9th, 2017, 05:53 AM #37
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September 9th, 2017, 09:44 AM #38
Re: Help with FB discussion
I didn't think you were slamming me. They had said "my car matched a description of the offending vehicle from the night before". I took that as a reasonable suspicion. Also I made extra certain that the officer that removed my M&P 9 knew that there was one in the chamber. I can understand some would think it was unreasonable but I work as an armed security officer and I know what it's like to deal with the "unkown variable".
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September 9th, 2017, 10:25 AM #39
Re: Help with FB discussion
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September 9th, 2017, 12:22 PM #40
Re: Help with FB discussion
Comments in this thread from active and former LE are very interesting... and useful.
Sort of off topic, but don't many DUIs start as a headlight or taillight out, (i.e., car reeks of liquor or weed)? Years ago I worked p/t security at a gated community and I could tell immediately who had been drinking once the car window was rolled down.
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