Pennsylvania Firearm Owners Association
Page 5 of 6 FirstFirst 123456 LastLast
Results 41 to 50 of 55
  1. #41
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    In the can, Pennsylvania
    (Montgomery County)
    Posts
    486
    Rep Power
    21474844

    Default Re: Was this a justified use of a concealed carry gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by MT1 View Post
    None of this is worth it over a .39 cent notebook at Walmart. However, if it's one of the $1.99 five-subject tablets with the cool tabbed dividers - it's game on!
    Word!
    How can you have any cookies if you don't drink your milk?

  2. #42
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Sterling, Pennsylvania
    (Wayne County)
    Posts
    4,458
    Rep Power
    21474850

    Default Re: Was this a justified use of a concealed carry gun?

    It stopped the attack.

  3. #43
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Richboro, Pennsylvania
    (Bucks County)
    Posts
    1,256
    Rep Power
    11901686

    Default Re: Was this a justified use of a concealed carry gun?

    Got here late and didn't see the original video. The "DETROIT free press" yanked it and just has a stillshot of a woman pointing a pistol at someone you can't see.

    Kind of makes me want to side with the carrying mom on that fact alone.


    Was the race card played?

  4. #44
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Glen Mills, Pennsylvania
    Posts
    4,332
    Rep Power
    21474846

    Default Re: Was this a justified use of a concealed carry gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by Delkal View Post
    Got here late and didn't see the original video. The "DETROIT free press" yanked it and just has a stillshot of a woman pointing a pistol at someone you can't see.

    Kind of makes me want to side with the carrying mom on that fact alone.


    Was the race card played?
    The video works for me
    Proof Armed citizens make a difference. http://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.php?t=316012

  5. #45
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Glen Mills, Pennsylvania
    Posts
    4,332
    Rep Power
    21474846

    Default Re: Was this a justified use of a concealed carry gun?

    YouTube has it now.

    Proof Armed citizens make a difference. http://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.php?t=316012

  6. #46
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
    (Philadelphia County)
    Posts
    170
    Rep Power
    9714761

    Default Re: Was this a justified use of a concealed carry gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by DukeConnor View Post
    If you haven't been in a fight with a black woman, you haver never been in a fight. Only way I can equate it is trying to shower with six cats.
    You ain't never lied lol

  7. #47
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Oakland Mills, Pennsylvania
    (Juniata County)
    Posts
    3,006
    Rep Power
    21474844

    Default Re: Was this a justified use of a concealed carry gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by scruff View Post
    Nope. No reasonable fear of serious bodily injury or death, so no justification to pull the gun. What a stupid move.
    I disagree. Any physical force can be deadly. I've seen people die from stupidly little things. I've seen people walk away from wrecks that should have killed them. There is a huge element of randomness.


    Quote Originally Posted by internet troll View Post
    Lol..... I know what you mean. I've broken up lots of fights as a teacher. When guys fight, they normally stop fighting right away and go into verbal mode. Girls want to kill each other. I've broken up fights where I've had to throw a girl over my shoulder and carried her to the center to get her away from the other girl and she was still struggling to get away and tear the other girls eyes out.

    I helped break up a girl fight last year where I got the one girl separated and I to a room where another teacher said he would keep her in there. I went out to help get the other girl under control and get the crowd moving when the girl who was suppose to be in the room came zipping past me to get back at the other girl. I watched as another teacher literally tackled her to keep her from getting at the other girl again. Ask any teacher, they will take a guy fight over a girl fight any day.


    A good point.

    Chick fights are always to the death.

    Quote Originally Posted by scruff View Post
    Then you should watch the video. All I see is a little hair-pulling and grabbing at the notebook. No ground-and-pound, no kicking, no punching or slapping. It's a minor tussle, not a knock down-drag out fight. Try convincing a jury that that's a lethal-force situation.


    And it takes less than a second for one to turn into the other, and longer than that to draw a gun, even if you're being smart and open carrying. 21 Feet, remember? Of course if mom was open carrying, I doubt this would have happened.
    Last edited by PAMedic=F|A=; September 4th, 2017 at 08:14 PM.
    "Cives Arma Ferant"

    "I know I'm not James Bond, that's why I don't keep a loaded gun under the pillow, or bang Russian spies on a regular basis." - GunLawyer001

  8. #48
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Richboro, Pennsylvania
    (Bucks County)
    Posts
    1,256
    Rep Power
    11901686

    Default Re: Was this a justified use of a concealed carry gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by internet troll View Post
    YouTube has it now.

    Thanks for the link. It is interesting they did not show what lead up to the confrontation. But, from what I see there were two upstanding citizens that had a girl on her knees and were assaulting her (while their young soon to be feral kids watched from the shopping cart). Assuming the girl on her knees didn't start the assault then.......YES, her mom was justified to stop the assault. Like someone else mentioned. It stopped the incident

    Just media clickbate with an antigun theme. I doubt anyone will be charged but stranger things have happened.

  9. #49
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Erie, Pennsylvania
    (Erie County)
    Posts
    316
    Rep Power
    5990085

    Default Re: Was this a justified use of a concealed carry gun?

    I just watched that video about a dozen times. If I was on the jury I would not vote to prosecute the CPL holder . I would vote to have simple assault charges brought against the hair pullers.
    We the people love our country so let the government fear us.

  10. #50
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    Middle of PA, Pennsylvania
    Posts
    3,812
    Rep Power
    21474843

    Default Re: Was this a justified use of a concealed carry gun?

    While it was self defense, you need to have a few layers of protection OTHER than a firearm being your ONLY option.

    The ideal course of action would have been for her to mace the attackers first...keep the gun holstered until you're actually in a life or death situation. A push and hair pulling are not quite there.

    I wouldn't prosecute the woman defending herself, but you need to be able to stop a threat without pulling a gun in some situations. A crowded store like Walmart with children around and in the line of fire, that's not an ideal place to shoot someone.


    Absolutely justified, but I still wish she had a non-lethal option first:

    Last edited by alpacaheat; September 5th, 2017 at 12:47 PM.
    The Constitution does not say that a person can yell wolf in a crowded theater.

Page 5 of 6 FirstFirst 123456 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. law for extra ammo carry with a concealed carry permit
    By wilddude4202001 in forum Concealed Carry
    Replies: 44
    Last Post: July 28th, 2016, 05:16 PM
  2. Replies: 45
    Last Post: December 1st, 2015, 03:17 PM
  3. Replies: 33
    Last Post: November 20th, 2014, 03:06 PM
  4. Concealed carry. Able to carry my father's pistol?
    By anythingmilitarybuff in forum Concealed Carry
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: January 15th, 2009, 10:16 PM
  5. Open Carry vs. Concealed Carry ~ A paper by Garry E. Harvey
    By Pa. Patriot in forum Concealed Carry
    Replies: 84
    Last Post: November 29th, 2008, 05:41 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Local gun shops | Local shooting ranges | Philadelphia Shooting Ranges | Philadelphia Gun Shops | Pittsburgh Shooting Ranges | Pittsburgh Gun Shops