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  1. #11
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    Default Re: Open carry issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunrights23 View Post
    How should I have handled it streaker69? By letting him step all over my rights and listen to him? Or when when the manager told him I could go in he asked the manager again, "ok so just so we are clear your just going to let anyone in here with a open firearm?" Manager said yes and the officer looked at me and said ok you may go in now, like it was with his permissions to let me in. Also with no i am sorry for holding you up with a policy i knew nothing about!
    Saying "fuck you" to a cop isn't going to turn out well. It could have been handled better by not doing that. All you did was exacerbate the situation.
    Rules are written in the stone,
    Break the rules and you get no bones,
    all you get is ridicule, laughter,
    and a trip to the house of pain.

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    Default Re: Open carry issue

    You could have stated to the officer, "You know we are on private property, right?"
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    Default Re: Open carry issue

    I'm wondering if it was a police officer or a security guard.
    Gender confusion is a mental illness

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    Default Re: Open carry issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter View Post
    I'm wondering if it was a police officer or a security guard.
    Pittsburgh police officer in uniform

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    Default Re: Open carry issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Gun View Post
    You could have stated to the officer, "You know we are on private property, right?"
    He does security detail there

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    Default Re: Open carry issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunrights23 View Post
    Pittsburgh police officer in uniform
    Quote Originally Posted by Gunrights23 View Post
    He does security detail there
    You do realize that makes a difference?
    Illegitimus non carborundum est

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    Default Re: Open carry issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunrights23 View Post
    He does security detail there
    Is it possible that the store was uncomfortable with you carrying there in the past and asked him to stop anyone they saw open carrying and then choked when put on the spot and decided to go through with the policy afterwards? Maybe the guard was following directions and the manager did not back him up when put on the spot.

  8. #18
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    Default Re: Open carry issue

    Saying "Fuck you" is not handling it well. Remaining calm and maintaining a rational discussion, getting the all clear from the manager and having the manager tell him it's okay or covering up if that's what the property owner demands. You have gun Rights they have property Rights.

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    The cop was wrong, you were handling it well, getting things clarified and I would say even prevailed.

    But then. "we argued a little more, he told me that he didnt want to talk to me no more so i said fuck you."

    You were winning and then stooped to his level. Talk about a sore winner.

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    Default Re: Open carry issue

    I don't know why you feel the need to carry anyway. According to NBC, if you are in the grocery store and need to protect yourself, all you have to do is throw boxes of cereal at the gunman and you will be fine. Goooo Applejacks!

    NBC Advises Shoppers to Throw Groceries at Robbers, No Mention of Guns

    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb...o-mention-guns

    In a report on Friday’s NBC Today about how people could defend themselves during a convenience store robbery, National Investigative Correspondent Jeff Rossen and security expert Mykel Hawke suggested that shoppers should hurl groceries off the shelves at the armed criminals in an attempt to escape. The possibility of using a firearm for protection was never mentioned.
    Introducing the segment, fill-in co-host Hoda Kotb warned: “This summer there’s been a rash of violent convenience store robberies across the country with customers caught in the middle.” Fellow co-host Matt Lauer followed: “So how do you protect yourself if you’re ever faced with a situation like that?”

    Rossen began:

    And we’ve all seen those videos, right? Some suspect walking into a convenience store, a coffee shop, a gas station, robbing the clerk at gunpoint, then some customer comes from behind and attacks the suspect. It looks brave, we’ve reported on it right here, and it is, but is it really what you’re supposed to do? This morning, the advice from law enforcement officials...
    Hawke promised: “I’m going to teach you some tips today that could save your life.”

    While the report began with standard advice of escaping the store or finding a place to hide and calling the police, it soon took a bizarre turn. Rossen imagined: “Worst-case scenario, last resort, you’ve done all that, he’s still agitated and you feel like he is right about to shoot you.” With the reporter pointing his hands like a gun at Hawke, the security expert explained: “Absolutely, if you think you have no other choice and you are about to be killed then you’ve got to try to escape. So what you do is you do something mental like, ‘Please, mister, don’t shoot,’ and then you set yourself up with, oh!”

    In that moment, Hawke could be seen flinging a box of oatmeal packets from a nearby shelf at Rossen. The correspondent rightfully asked: “And then what?” Hawke simply replied: “And then you escape. Okay? So that’s it.”

    That’s it?! Even Rossen seemed a little puzzled as to how such a feeble defense could prevent someone from being shot.

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    At least NBC remained consistent in its pattern of never suggesting that people use a gun to defend themselves against a violent criminal. Within the past year, Rossen has had two separate reports on how to handle dangerous attackers. While looking at the threat of being mugged on the street, he touted cell phone apps as the best protection. In a segment about home invasions, he told homeowners, “don’t fight back.” During a 2014 report along the same lines, Rossen offered advice like spraying the intruder with bug spray or treating them “like royalty” as they robbed you.

    Friday’s crime-fighting tips were brought to viewers by Smuckers and Xfinity.

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