Definition of Antique Firearm to Change

[Sparks]

Another step in the right direction.

"A Senate measure would change the federal definition of an antique firearm from one made before 1899 to one that is 100 years old.

Introduced earlier this month as S.1541, the move would dramatically increase the number of older guns that are available to collectors that could be sold and shipped without a Federal Firearms License.

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives generally does not regulate antique guns as defined under federal law as one made in or before 1898 that is not otherwise controlled by National Firearms Act."

http://www.guns.com/2017/07/27/bill-...ns-nationwide/

[Bang]

Interesting. Is that the model or the year of manufacture? Pretty damned silly to allow a 1911 made on or before 1917 but exclude 1918 on of the same damned gun.

[theunrulychef]

This would be so awesome...


If I had money.

[Sgt.K]

Interesting. Is that the model or the year of manufacture? Pretty damned silly to allow a 1911 made on or before 1917 but exclude 1918 on of the same damned gun.

Pretty damned silly to restrict the purchase of a tool, regardless of year...

[john9001]

Pretty damned silly to restrict the purchase of a tool, regardless of year...

you are correct sir.

[fallenleader]

-anything- that isn't currently in general service in the US military should be considered historic and be allowed to transfer without an FFL.
i mean... if we "have" to have the rule.

if we can simply do away with the red tape and all... well then we can sum firearms regulations up in a short paragraph... oh our wise forefathers seem to have already done that. -_-'

[qmcorps]

Spend $30 and get a C&R 03 FFL.

[john9001]

Pretty damned silly to restrict the purchase of a tool, regardless of year...

hey, I was going to say that. Or something like that.

[Ecclectic Collector]

Most European countries have adopted 100 years as a rule for determining antique status. It would make firearms with a manufacture date stamped on it easy to determine as antique, however I see a few problems:

1. Many dealers refuse to honor C&R or antique status already. The usual excuse is that "I entered into my books, so I have to do a transfer to remove it". Since the fee to do a background check is a significant money maker for many dealers, they have little incentive to allow simple cash and carry transfers.

2. With a many firearms one needs to know model and variation, as well as serial number to determine antique status. Here is one case where the onus is on the seller to know this and I think a dealer has a legitimate case to worry that they'll be on the hook if they get it wrong.

3. Some states already refuse to honor C & R or antique status as it stands under federal law. I'd see even more retroactive state legislation to remove the "loophole" allowing those guns that would be allowed to be sold unregulated under a new federal definition.

Don't get me wrong. I'd like to see a one hundred year rule passed to define antique.

[Sgt.K]

Don't get me wrong. I'd like to see a one hundred year rule passed to define antique.

I'd like to see a 236 year rule passed that we don't need any other rules.

I know, I know...