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    Default Re: CLAIM: Open carry not permitted if possessing LTCF

    Quote Originally Posted by mpan72 View Post
    Has the shop been named?
    Quote Originally Posted by Emptymag View Post
    No.

    In light of this, I am boycotting every shop in the greater Pittsburgh area just to be sure that I "stick it" to the right guy.

    Oh, alright. The shop is Bloomberg Grab-A-Gun. You can't miss it. It's on that Pennsylvania road with all the potholes.

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    Default Re: CLAIM: Open carry not permitted if possessing LTCF

    Quote Originally Posted by RayDiffraction View Post
    Oh, alright. The shop is Bloomberg Grab-A-Gun. You can't miss it. It's on that Pennsylvania road with all the potholes.
    Well done

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    Default Re: CLAIM: Open carry not permitted if possessing LTCF

    Grab-a-gun has an onerous ring to it. Sorta like reckless.

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    Default Re: CLAIM: Open carry not permitted if possessing LTCF

    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    By the time the cops show up, the body is already room temperature, all they need to do is draw the chalk outline.
    Fify
    Go sell crazy some where else, we're all stocked up here.


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    Default Re: CLAIM: Open carry not permitted if possessing LTCF

    Quote Originally Posted by Emptymag View Post
    No.

    In light of this, I am boycotting every shop in the greater Pittsburgh area just to be sure that I "stick it" to the right guy.

    So am I.
    Some people just plain suck.
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    Default Re: CLAIM: Open carry not permitted if possessing LTCF

    Quote Originally Posted by Carson View Post
    I just got one in Coatesville. $411 with Glock Nightsights.
    The big store off of Rt30 that has other Public Safety stuff....

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    Default Re: CLAIM: Open carry not permitted if possessing LTCF

    Quote Originally Posted by RayDiffraction View Post
    Yes, I had thought of your position but that's still the question of balancing a "maybe this" and a "maybe that" against a fairly certain threat against his livelihood for something that may not be his fault. The community of gun owners and particularly 2nd Amandment advocates has a lot of power when it comes to a gun store in a community, and it should be used judiciously and rightly apportioned against the real enemies of our freedoms--not a fellow 2nd Amendment advocate who happened to make one mistake which may not even be his fault.
    But it was his fault. It was entirely his fault. He gave legal advice without verifying the validity of whatever his source was. Whatever the reason, he gave you incorrect advice. Whose fault was that? It wasn't your fault, it wasn't my fault, and it wasn't the fault of the business owner on the next block. It was HIS fault.

    Being too reactionary in a forum such as this easily can lead to a gun store's closing and a real person with a real family having to endure hardship because of us.
    Not because of us, because of him. You need to get a better handle on responsibility. Actions have consequences. Many of the problems in the United States today are due to the fact that too many social justice warriors don't think people should be responsible for anything they do -- it's always someone else's fault. That's not how it works in the real world. Nobody put a gun to the guy's head and forced him to give you bad advice. He did it. If that has consequences for his business -- it should. Maybe then he'll learn not to spout off about things he doesn't know.

    Frankly, if you're not willing to name the shop, you shouldn't have made the post that opened this thread
    Last edited by Greywolf; July 23rd, 2017 at 01:38 AM.

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    Default Re: CLAIM: Open carry not permitted if possessing LTCF

    Quote Originally Posted by Greywolf View Post
    But it was his fault. It was entirely his fault. He gave legal advice without verifying the validity of whatever his source was. Whatever the reason, he gave you incorrect advice. Whose fault was that? It wasn't your fault, it wasn't my fault, and it wasn't the fault of the business owner on the next block. It was HIS fault.


    Not because of us, because of him. You need to get a better handle on responsibility. Actions have consequences. Many of the problems in the United States today are due to the fact that too many social justice warriors don't think people should be responsible for anything they do -- it's always someone else's fault. That's not how it works in the real world. Nobody put a gun to the guy's head and forced him to give you bad advice. He did it. If that has consequences for his business -- it should. Maybe then he'll learn not to spout off about things he doesn't know.

    Frankly, if you're not willing to name the shop, you shouldn't have made the post that opened this thread
    Frankly, this sounds like Internet courage, coming from an anonymous source where you bear no responsibility for your words or actions.

    How are things in your hometown of "North America"?

    Should PAFOA permanently ban anyone who says something which is incorrect?
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    Default Re: CLAIM: Open carry not permitted if possessing LTCF

    Quote Originally Posted by Greywolf View Post
    But it was his fault. It was entirely his fault. He gave legal advice without verifying the validity of whatever his source was. Whatever the reason, he gave you incorrect advice. Whose fault was that? It wasn't your fault, it wasn't my fault, and it wasn't the fault of the business owner on the next block. It was HIS fault.


    Not because of us, because of him. You need to get a better handle on responsibility. Actions have consequences. Many of the problems in the United States today are due to the fact that too many social justice warriors don't think people should be responsible for anything they do -- it's always someone else's fault. That's not how it works in the real world. Nobody put a gun to the guy's head and forced him to give you bad advice. He did it. If that has consequences for his business -- it should. Maybe then he'll learn not to spout off about things he doesn't know.

    Frankly, if you're not willing to name the shop, you shouldn't have made the post that opened this thread
    The gun store owner gave "legal" advice to prevent someone from breaking the law, NOT to break the law, regardless of the validity.

    This is like a sheriff who gladly wants everyone non-prohibited to have an LTCF, but tells the applicant that they can't OC after obtaining the LTCF.

    Comical maybe, but sad?

    This is not the same as when the engineers told NASA NOT to launch that one space shuttle on that very cold day in January.
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    Default Re: CLAIM: Open carry not permitted if possessing LTCF

    Wow. How perfect hindsight is. I guess the best course is to never impart information of any sort to anyone for fear it could be incorrect.

    Let's do away with weather forecasters, investment councilors, medical diagnosticians, juris doctors, all of whom are sometimes wrong or fail to correctly assess.

    Sounds like one more way to stifle freedom of speech to me. A new politically correct required position: You may speak, but it had better be valid.

    Interesting that I have read comments here to never ask a cop, who enforces law, about law; yet a guy who sells guns and supplies is expected to simultaneously represent all 20,000 gun laws flawlessly.

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