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July 5th, 2017, 11:10 PM #1
Chrome lined vs stainless AR barrels
Can someone please school me in differences of AR barrels? If quality of manufacture is equal, which is better? I have read numerous opinions saying non-chrome-lined melonite type barrels are the most accurate, some say that the chrome-lined are the longest lived, and some say SS are good, right up until they aren't? I am a fan of SS due to easy care, (same fore chrome lined?) ... can anyone explain the difference to me? Technical or personal opinion are both OK !
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July 6th, 2017, 08:57 AM #2Senior Member
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Re: Chrome lined vs stainless AR barrels
chrome lined barrels are great for SHTF rifles, general plinking rifles and even hunting rifles where a .5 to 1 MOA shift isn't an issue. However due to the fact chrome plating cannot be equally distributed onto the barrel it will affect accuracy. In my opinion the most accurate barrels will end up being stainless steel hand lapped barrels
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July 6th, 2017, 09:07 AM #3
Re: Chrome lined vs stainless AR barrels
Chrome lined: best barrel life of the bunch. If anyone tells you melonite/nitriding is better from longevity standpoint, just ask how many rounds they've shot through theirs. Chrome lining is often blamed for service rifles' wider groups. However, I tend to believe that it is entirely dependent. I had a Colt HBAR 1:7 C MP barrel that would shoot sub-MOA all day with 69 and 75 grain SMKs. Originally developed to withstand full-auto rates of fire. Easy cleaning. Go with BCM, FN, Colt, DD, Green Mountain, or Knights Armament for these barrels (to name a few).
Melonite/Nitriding: The new kid on the block from a barrel coating perspective. The intent of this is to give the kind of Goldilocks condition: good barrel life and good accuracy. I've got limited experience with Nitriding as I've only got two barrels with it (Ballistic Advantage SPR profile 1:8 twist and Larue 20" Stealth). That being said, that barrels both shoots lights out. My LaRue does 1/2" pretty routinely with 69 grain SMKs. My gut says nitriding won't last as long as chrome lining (especially under rapid fire) but for most of us, it'll do just fine. Easy cleaning. Go with Larue (huge +1 for these guys), Ballistic Advantage, Faxon, Green Mountain to name a few.
Stainless: These are often thought of as "Match Grade" but you'd better know where the barrel blank came from. I've seen some "Match Grade" barrels perform awfully. Just because they're stainless doesn't mean they're great. Buy from a reputable dealer like Douglas or Criterion and you're going to do well. Buy a Bear Creek from Classic...well...just don't do that and save your money. Stainless barrels have a very short "break-in" and typically settle in on their groupings quickly but do this at a cost of shorter barrel life, somewhere around 10-12k rounds. Some shooters will burn out these barrels. The hardest to clean of the bunch IMO. Already mentioned Criterion, Douglas, but don't forget about Kreiger and the likes.
Choice of materials depends on your intended use:
1) Range blaster? Go with Chrome Lined.
2) Mix between target and blaster? Melonite
3) Purely target? Go stainless from a reputable company
Remember, not all barrel manufacturers are equivalent.I'm only here for the wood c-rings.
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July 6th, 2017, 09:51 AM #4
Re: Chrome lined vs stainless AR barrels
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July 6th, 2017, 12:17 PM #5
Re: Chrome lined vs stainless AR barrels
Seems the average bear pictures the bright shiny plated enhancements found on a motor vehicle when they hear or read "chrome".
Not so. The chrome used to line a bore is not the same. It is placed there for its hardness and smoothness. Reciprocating aircraft engine cylinder bores were chromed to obtain the benefits. Japanese motorcycle engineers have moved on from chrome to ceramic coatings.
I can offer nothing to the argument regarding effects on accuracy or POI. I'm just offering what I know of chrome-lined bores.
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July 6th, 2017, 12:47 PM #6
Re: Chrome lined vs stainless AR barrels
Back in the day they claimed that chrome lining was for the stoppages from rusty chambers in the rainy jungle. They rusted in a day. Couldn't get spent cases out. Many dead guys found with rifles broke open trying to unjam them.
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July 12th, 2017, 10:23 PM #7
Re: Chrome lined vs stainless AR barrels
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July 12th, 2017, 10:55 PM #8
Re: Chrome lined vs stainless AR barrels
Thanks Guys !
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July 12th, 2017, 11:35 PM #9
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July 13th, 2017, 07:30 AM #10
Re: Chrome lined vs stainless AR barrels
I don't think it really makes much of a difference what the barrel is made of as long as you get one from a reputable manufacturer. Barrels are relativity cheap and easily replaced after 10K or more rounds.
If you want top accuracy to compete with, then you need to do a lot of research and pick the brains of fellow competitors and fork out the cash!Toujours prêt
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