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    Default Man shoots daughter..... If you are new too ALWAYS treat your gun like it's loaded



    Things like this do unfortunately occasionally happen.... and are completely avoidable, hopefully others can learn so it does not happen to them.

    Some basic rules if you are new to the site or firearms, or even as an occasional reminder since no one is perfect.

    1. ALWAYS treat your gun like it is loaded
    2. Never point it at another person, (unless in a self defense situation.)
    3. Don't point it at anything you are not willing to destroy
    4. Keep your finger off the trigger until on target.
    5. Always know what your target is and what is beyond it.

    This is such a senseless and avoidable death.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/07/01...un-safety.html
    'I thought it was empty': Father says he fatally shot daughter, 9, while teaching sons gun safety



    A northwestern Indiana man said he was showing a handgun to his sons and telling them to never play with it "because it can kill someone" when he accidentally shot and killed his 9-year-old daughter, according to court records.

    Eric Hummel sobbed while reporting the shooting during a 911 call on June 10, telling the dispatcher, "This can't be real," the Post-Tribune reported. His daughter, Olivia, died about 30 minutes later at a hospital.

    Authorities said the 33-year-old father was showing his sons a 9 mm semi-automatic handgun when he inadvertently shot Olivia as she walked into the room. Hummel told the 911 dispatcher he didn't realize the gun was loaded when he pulled the trigger.

    The dispatcher instructed Hummel to perform CPR on his daughter until emergency responders arrived. An autopsy showed the girl was shot in the forehead at close range.

    The newspaper obtained the 911 call recording through a public records request.

    "I had my gun, and I pulled the trigger. I didn't realize there was a bullet in there, and I shot my daughter," Hummel told the dispatcher.

    The call continued and the dispatcher asked if he could perform CPR.

    "Should I press on her chest?" he asked

    "Yes.”

    "She's got blood, man, everywhere," he replied.

    The paper reported that he could be heard whispering, “Please don’t go.”

    Hummel reportedly called the girl’s mother from the police station and told her to go to the hospital because their daughter was dead. One of the responding officers reportedly overheard Hummel say, “I shot her. I’m so sorry.”

    One of Hummel’s sons—the 9-year-old—said his father pointed the gun at him “probably like two times” and “a few times” at the other brother, the police report alleged.

    Hobart Police Chief Richard W. Zormier said at a press conference, “I believe this was a series of heinous and depraved acts committed by the suspect on June 10. His actions that day endangered the lives of all three children and ultimately stole the life of Olivia, an innocent 9-year-old girl.”

    He continued, “His actions caused the death of Olivia and likely scarred the boys emotionally for life.”

    Hummel faces multiple charges, including reckless homicide and child neglect. He plans to plead not guilty, according to his attorney, Paul Stracci.

    Stracci said the idea that Hummel knowingly endangered his children was "ridiculous."

    "Anyone who knows him knows he loves his kids more than anything in the world and would never do anything to hurt them," Stracci said.

    Hummel's next court date is scheduled for Aug. 24.

    The Associated Press contributed to this report
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    Default Re: Man shoots daughter..... If you are new too ALWAYS treat your gun like it's loade

    What a horrible thing to have to live with. This family needs prayers on their behalf.

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    Default Re: Man shoots daughter..... If you are new too ALWAYS treat your gun like it's loade

    It is an unbelievably horrible thing to have to live with. I can't imagine.

    However, there's a serious amount of fail on his part. He fucked up bad.

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    Default Re: Man shoots daughter..... If you are new too ALWAYS treat your gun like it's loade

    Heinous and depraved? WTF? This guy is beyond retarded but it sounds like an accident. It makes me sick to my stomach thinking about how it would feel to accidentally kill your child.
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    Default Re: Man shoots daughter..... If you are new too ALWAYS treat your gun like it's loade

    Quote Originally Posted by Yoder View Post
    This guy is beyond retarded but it sounds like an accident.
    Of course it was accident. Way to kick a guy while he's down... on suicide watch.

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    Default Re: Man shoots daughter..... If you are new too ALWAYS treat your gun like it's loade

    There's absolutely no excuse for aiming and pulling a trigger because you "thought the gun was unloaded." This man's inexcusable idiocy cost him the life of his daughter. Living with that is a fate worse than any legal ramifications but legal ramifications there should also be.
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    Default Re: Man shoots daughter..... If you are new too ALWAYS treat your gun like it's loade

    Holllyyy shiiitttt man. I feel bad but what everyone else has said. What an idiot. Com'on now.

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    Default Re: Man shoots daughter..... If you are new too ALWAYS treat your gun like it's loade

    Nothing would make me support mandatory training. Also, guys and gals that would do something like this training will do nothing for. The safety rules are common sense not some complicated theory that needs class time.

    Some cases deserve prosecution and some do not and would not be beneficial. From what little I know here charges should be filed. Not necessarily jail time on conviction though

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    Default Re: Man shoots daughter..... If you are new too ALWAYS treat your gun like it's loade

    How horrible. I can't imagine what that family is going through. A trial, conviction, prison time, etc isn't going to benefit society at all. The guy should probably take his own life ASAP at this point and save everyone from the process.

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    Default Re: Man shoots daughter..... If you are new too ALWAYS treat your gun like it's loade

    Quote Originally Posted by internet troll View Post


    Things like this do unfortunately occasionally happen.... and are completely avoidable, hopefully others can learn so it does not happen to them.

    Some basic rules if you are new to the site or firearms, or even as an occasional reminder since no one is perfect.

    1. ALWAYS treat your gun like it is loaded
    2. Never point it at another person, (unless in a self defense situation.)
    3. Don't point it at anything you are not willing to destroy
    4. Keep your finger off the trigger until on target.
    5. Always know what your target is and what is beyond it.

    This is such a senseless and avoidable death.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/07/01...un-safety.html
    'I thought it was empty': Father says he fatally shot daughter, 9, while teaching sons gun safety



    A northwestern Indiana man said he was showing a handgun to his sons and telling them to never play with it "because it can kill someone" when he accidentally shot and killed his 9-year-old daughter, according to court records.

    Eric Hummel sobbed while reporting the shooting during a 911 call on June 10, telling the dispatcher, "This can't be real," the Post-Tribune reported. His daughter, Olivia, died about 30 minutes later at a hospital.

    Authorities said the 33-year-old father was showing his sons a 9 mm semi-automatic handgun when he inadvertently shot Olivia as she walked into the room. Hummel told the 911 dispatcher he didn't realize the gun was loaded when he pulled the trigger.

    The dispatcher instructed Hummel to perform CPR on his daughter until emergency responders arrived. An autopsy showed the girl was shot in the forehead at close range.

    The newspaper obtained the 911 call recording through a public records request.

    "I had my gun, and I pulled the trigger. I didn't realize there was a bullet in there, and I shot my daughter," Hummel told the dispatcher.

    The call continued and the dispatcher asked if he could perform CPR.

    "Should I press on her chest?" he asked

    "Yes.”

    "She's got blood, man, everywhere," he replied.

    The paper reported that he could be heard whispering, “Please don’t go.”

    Hummel reportedly called the girl’s mother from the police station and told her to go to the hospital because their daughter was dead. One of the responding officers reportedly overheard Hummel say, “I shot her. I’m so sorry.”

    One of Hummel’s sons—the 9-year-old—said his father pointed the gun at him “probably like two times” and “a few times” at the other brother, the police report alleged.

    Hobart Police Chief Richard W. Zormier said at a press conference, “I believe this was a series of heinous and depraved acts committed by the suspect on June 10. His actions that day endangered the lives of all three children and ultimately stole the life of Olivia, an innocent 9-year-old girl.”

    He continued, “His actions caused the death of Olivia and likely scarred the boys emotionally for life.”

    Hummel faces multiple charges, including reckless homicide and child neglect. He plans to plead not guilty, according to his attorney, Paul Stracci.

    Stracci said the idea that Hummel knowingly endangered his children was "ridiculous."

    "Anyone who knows him knows he loves his kids more than anything in the world and would never do anything to hurt them," Stracci said.

    Hummel's next court date is scheduled for Aug. 24.

    The Associated Press contributed to this report
    I'm always amazed that my grandson, when he was 8, knew and followed these rules, while I have encountered grown men who had shot firearms for years, whowere either very lazy, or simply ignorant. My grandson would tell me at the range that someone was handling his gun, pointed right at me while I was down range. Or someone would offer to let me shoot their loaded 1911 by handing it to me muzzle first.

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