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  1. #11
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    Default Re: denied license to carry a firearm

    Quote Originally Posted by fuzzywuzzy View Post
    If, assuming he was at the legal drinking age of 21 when he got the DUI, he would be around 80 years old now. And brings it up now?
    Except in 1959 the drinking age was 18 not 21. Sorry didn' see the other post.
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  2. #12
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    ...and nothing else of a criminal nature on your record since 1959?

    Hey, we all do stupid shit when we're 18 (which is why the minimum age for alcohol and handgun ownership is 21 - your brain needs a few more years of development to fully build the part that deals with actions/consequences).

    DUI in 1959, true. Nothing criminal since then; give the guy a LTCF.

    BUT, if you get an anti-gun sheriff (the guns for me, not for thee type or the "guns are for hunting" type), the decision has moved from one based in fact to one that is based in opinion. To me, this is a problem with the system. I think the character clause needs to be removed. If not removed, the decision needs to be based on more than the opinion of a single person (unless it already is, than in that case, the system is still broken).
    ...and the hits just keep on coming. #MAGA

  3. #13
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    I was 20 at the time,no other problem. However I may eligible for relief from firearms disability under 18 PA C.S. 6105.1 is what is on the letter that they sent me. I still need help..

  4. #14
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    Default Re: denied license to carry a firearm

    The character clause is vague and arbitrary, therefore an illegal law.

  5. #15
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    Default Re: denied license to carry a firearm

    Quote Originally Posted by john9001 View Post
    The character clause is vague and arbitrary, therefore an illegal law.
    ^^^^THIS^^^^

    Illegal and far from "shall issue".

  6. #16
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    Default Re: denied license to carry a firearm

    Quote Originally Posted by daschnoz View Post
    Hey, we all do stupid shit when we're 18 (which is why the minimum age for alcohol and handgun ownership is 21 - your brain needs a few more years of development to fully build the part that deals with actions/consequences).
    Why then can you, at 17, enlist in the military and go get maimed or killed? Answer, the alcohol and handgun thing isn't about your brain needing to develop, it's about control. Oh, and you don't have to be 21 to own a handgun, just to purchase one through an FFL. In states that don't infringe on the rights of their citizens as much as PA does, it's easy for 18-20 year olds to buy second hand handguns FTF....

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    Default Re: denied license to carry a firearm

    The basis for my denial can be found under federal law, 18 USC 922 (g)

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    Default Re: denied license to carry a firearm

    Quote Originally Posted by wally_471 View Post
    The basis for my denial can be found under federal law, 18 USC 922 (g)
    As I suspected there was more to the story then was presented.

    You need a lawyer.

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    Default Re: denied license to carry a firearm

    Quote Originally Posted by wally_471 View Post
    The basis for my denial can be found under federal law, 18 USC 922 (g)
    All the Federal prohibitors are under 922(g). Relevant to this discussion is 922(g)(1), which prohibits anyone convicted of any crime punishable by more than 1 year, unless it's a misdemeanor, in which case it has to be over 2 years.

    Drunk driving in the late 1950's was a misdemeanor punishable by not more than 3 years. Anyone with such a conviction still on his record is Federally prohibited. Most of those folks are over age 70 now (or dead), so they have expungement options if they've behaved themselves recently.
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    nothing else that I know of, running another criminal history now 4-6 weeks

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