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    Default Re: Used my firearm in an emergency scenario today

    Quote Originally Posted by wanneroo View Post
    Personally I wouldn't drag anyone out of the vehicle until their injuries are assessed. They could have a broken neck or back and unnecessary yanking them out could impair them for life. Cars just don't explode like a CHiPs episode. It's very rare to have an explosive situation in a car accident where someone needs to be dragged out of a vehicle right now this second.
    Same here, smoke is nothing after a crash, could have simply been oil that leaked out onto the motor when the filler tube got broken off or the transmission fluid that pumped out of a broken cooler.

    It's great to be a Good Samaritan and I am not going to disparage anyone for being one, just be aware that you can cause someone serious lifelong injuries when not using the proper immobilization techniques when moving someone.
    A head on or rearend crash can cause a spine injury pretty easily.

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    Most likely, you're right. The smoke might, and very probably is, nothing. However, the people trapped inside the car are not going to really want to wait in the car and find out, and if they are both fully ambulatory and responsive, good luck keeping them in there.

    I know how to hold C-spine, if anyone needs it.
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    Default Re: Used my firearm in an emergency scenario today

    Quote Originally Posted by Gun View Post
    Never thought about using my firearm, I would have just put my fist through the window.
    That is not an easy thing to do, especially if the window is completely closed.
    Some people just plain suck.
    If you're gonna be dumb ya gotta be tough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpan72 View Post
    That is not an easy thing to do, especially if the window is completely closed.
    Yep, smashed hand would be the likely result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 39flathead View Post
    Yep, smashed hand would be the likely result.
    I did get through a couple when there was other factors at play like anger or adrenaline. Other times not so much.
    Some people just plain suck.
    If you're gonna be dumb ya gotta be tough.

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    Default Re: Used my firearm in an emergency scenario today

    On that note, my fiance's daughter - who was standing aside and watching - said that two of the salesman from the lot we were supposed to be going to had come over to her and asked her if I was a firefighter.
    I bet she told those salesman that "I don't know but he's just one cool ass dad that knows what to do". Nice work
    Corruption is the default behavior of government officials. JPC

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    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    You'd think with all the crash sensors that are in vehicles now, there would be a sensor that kills the fuel pump upon collision. I think some Ford vehicles have had one for several years, I remember reading about people that were involved in minor fender benders and they had to reset their fuel pump afterwards.
    Yeah. Crown Vic is certainly one of those. If I don't have gear stowed securely in the trunk, and run emergency speed to a call, gear (small door ram & haligan tool) goes flying in the truck, hits the fuel pump cutoff, and renders me immobile until I reset the switch in the trunk. (Ask me how I know). Last time this happened, the thing wouldn't reset. Finally found that unsecured gear knocked the wiring plug out of the bottom of the switch.

    Quote Originally Posted by wanneroo View Post
    Personally I wouldn't drag anyone out of the vehicle until their injuries are assessed. They could have a broken neck or back and unnecessary yanking them out could impair them for life. Cars just don't explode like a CHiPs episode. It's very rare to have an explosive situation in a car accident where someone needs to be dragged out of a vehicle right now this second.
    My first concern when reading the OP.

    Quote Originally Posted by ViperGTS19801 View Post
    Most likely, you're right. The smoke might, and very probably is, nothing. However, the people trapped inside the car are not going to really want to wait in the car and find out, and if they are both fully ambulatory and responsive, good luck keeping them in there.

    I know how to hold C-spine, if anyone needs it.
    Eased my earlier concern.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JenniferG View Post
    I bet she told those salesman that "I don't know but he's just one cool ass dad that knows what to do". Nice work

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    Y'all are gonna make me stop posting stuff like this here. :-p
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    Default Re: Used my firearm in an emergency scenario today

    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    You'd think with all the crash sensors that are in vehicles now, there would be a sensor that kills the fuel pump upon collision. I think some Ford vehicles have had one for several years, I remember reading about people that were involved in minor fender benders and they had to reset their fuel pump afterwards.
    thought vehicles had sensors to shut off fuel when they're upside down, not really any other position.

    has anyone ever broken a window with a knife? methinks the small point of impact would provide for very little additional force, press knife to window and whack butt with object of choice.
    thats kind of how the sparkplug trick works.

    GJ viper.
    something to be said for living in the sticks though. less people, less encounters.
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