New Mossberg Shockwave 12ga

[Fred762]

ATF legal 14" bbl w pistol grip 12ga pump..from the factory. Not a NFA weapon..no tax stamp needed. View here: http://www.mossberg.com/category/series/590-shockwave/

Anybody got one? I want one!!

Sorry if this is a double post.

[Fred762]

14" bbl, ATF legal pump w pistol grip..no tax stamp. 12ga 5 shot. Tried it??

http://www.mossberg.com/category/series/590-shockwave/

[Emptymag]

How many threads are you going to start on this topic?

[Krichardson]

How many threads are you going to start on this topic?

Lol.

[jthrelf]

Will this be legal for a FTF transfer in PA???

[bluetrane2028]

Will this be legal for a FTF transfer in PA???

Doubtful. It doesn't reach the criteria of a long gun.

Instead of this thing, I'm going to put the same bird's head grip onto a regular 500 with an 18.5" barrel. 4.5" more makes it less cool (funny how that works for guns but not for other things), but I know exactly where it stands legally...

As for the having tried it question, I've previously had a 500 setup in the way I'm describing. It was very fun to shoot, but you're going to have to practice with it a lot before trusting as a defensive weapon, and even then you're probably better off with a regular shotgun with a 18"+ barrel. The bird's head grip doesn't give that "this thing's gonna snap my wrist" feeling you get with standard pistol grips, but it's not as easy to handle as a fully stocked shotgun either. Seeing the new Shockwave got me interested in it again, and if the law becomes clearer in terms of "is this thing legal to keep loaded in our vehicles in PA" and the answer is yes... I'll get the 14" version at that time. Until then, 18.5" will be fine.

[buxbandit]

Will this be legal for a FTF transfer in PA???

According to what I've read, yes it will. The length/shape of the grip is what puts it into the long gun class.

[FJW]

I actually like it....but I think I'd try to bolster the grip just a little. Truly heavy duty CQB stuff there. Just cant help but be reminded of the new AK and AR pistols and think maybe they fill the same role better. The AR and AK platforms already push the envelope a bit tryimg to downsize around a powerful cartridge. But maybe the 12 guage isnt quite obedient enough for this role.

[Yoder]

Looks like a short version of the shitty Mossberg I shot when I was a kid. Pump as smooth as gravel, crappy trigger and safety switch that takes 50 lbs of force to disengage. But it's reliable.

[slimvdub]

So would it be legal to add a vertical foregrip to one of these? I can't seem to find a straight answer.