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April 26th, 2017, 08:01 AM #11Super Member
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Re: LGS employee pushes bad choice for concealed carry gun
I see no problem recommending a light 38 snub to inexperienced shooters and physically petite women, in fact when I worked in a LGS I would do that quite regularly. It's light, small, won't jam, no slide, hammer or safety to manipulate. It's a simple self defense weapon, pull the trigger and it goes bang. In fact I carry one myself.
Otherwise I agree with what everyone is saying. Salesman have bias just like anyone else. Unfortunately some people are less willing to accept that others may have different preferences than their own.
I will also agree that many salesman are inexperienced in some ways. It's pretty damn hard to know everything about everything. I worked in a big box store for awhile also and we had everything under the sun as far as employees went. Some were solely into tacticool stuff, others were hunters who had never owned a handgun, some guys were competition level clays shooters, then a few of us were just well rounded Honestly though it made for a good environment (I know people knock on big box stores all the time) because if you weren't really in the know about something in particular there was usually another guy on hand who was.Last edited by Marcus99; April 26th, 2017 at 08:15 AM.
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April 26th, 2017, 09:11 AM #12
Re: LGS employee pushes bad choice for concealed carry gun
It's not like it's a bad gun. It's obviously a better defense tool than an XDS because of capacity, if one is ok with lugging around a full size pistol. Seems like your friend is to blame if he was looking for a single stack carry gun and ended up with a full size. It doesn't take much gun expertise to realize smaller = easier to carry.
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April 26th, 2017, 09:22 AM #13
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April 26th, 2017, 09:48 AM #14
Re: LGS employee pushes bad choice for concealed carry gun
It doesn't take much gun expertise to realize smaller <> easier to shoot.
All I'm saying is *everyone* has their own considerations...
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On 2nd thought, let me come back to this. Easier to carry <> easier to deploy. My 1911 presents me with a solid whole-hand firing grip from whichever holster method I choose. Some of those small 9mm single stacks don't give me a good grip when I pick them up from the bench, let alone during a draw. For example, a Shield 9mm with extended 8-round mag *barely* gives me full purchase for my ring finger. There are many, many things that go into finding a proper carry gun...
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April 26th, 2017, 09:50 AM #15
Re: LGS employee pushes bad choice for concealed carry gun
I think a light snubbie 38 is one of the worst things I've ever shot. Sights suck, recoil is severe. My wife couldn't hit anything with hers and didn't want to shoot it because it hurt her hand too much. The M & P full size is a good gun. It's big. Not the easiest gun to conceal, but I've concealed my Ruger super redhawk with a 7 1/2 barrel. Maybe the guy loved the gun or they had a bunch of them. It's not like he recommended a Hi Point.
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April 26th, 2017, 09:54 AM #16
Re: LGS employee pushes bad choice for concealed carry gun
After handling and shooting a number of guns, my wife at the time ended up buying an S&W 642 .38 spl. This was against my advice as it wasn't for carry but for HD. We ended up taking a couple of handgun courses. She ended up borrowing one of my CZ-75's as she hated shooting the snubby.
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April 26th, 2017, 10:12 AM #17Banned
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Re: LGS employee pushes bad choice for concealed carry gun
When I was shopping around for a shield one guy got pissed off when I told him that another guy had it for about 50 bucks less than he did. He said smugly, "Ah, well.... Better go see him, then. He probably has one of those Kickback agreements with Smith & Wesson." I didnt buy my Shield from either one of them though. 3hrs later I won one on Gunbroker for $257 plus fees, which is absolutely the best deal I've ever seen on a 9mm Shield so far. And it's MINE.
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April 26th, 2017, 12:44 PM #18Active Member
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Re: LGS employee pushes bad choice for concealed carry gun
If it's the shop I think it is (it's close to spring city and has a range), it's par for the course. They have a couple guys there with big opinions and bigger mouths. "Kimber guy" is hilarious - want a pocket 380? Buy a kimber 1911. Want a shotgun for skeet shooting? Buy a kimber 1911!
They've also threatened to throw me out of the range because I'm off eye dominant and they said I was shooting with my head turned and eyes closed. I don't always shoot with my eyes closed, but when I do, I put every round in the 10 ring at @15 yards. Lol
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April 26th, 2017, 02:46 PM #19Active Member
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Re: LGS employee pushes bad choice for concealed carry gun
It was more like oh your friend is taller that you and you carry an XDS so immediately your opinion is wrong and I'm a former marine....... ect... So I found out my friend only put it on law away so I told him to go with one of his first choices. The Sheild or XDs 9mm and avoid him because he is just trying to make a sale.
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April 26th, 2017, 03:24 PM #20
Re: LGS employee pushes bad choice for concealed carry gun
They'll also kick a little lady like a mule. My FIL was trying to get a Smith Airweight snubbie for my wife. I resisted and let her try out semi-autos and we found one that's easy to shoot. She was a new shooter and recoil was a major consideration. Also, I wanted to be the one to buy her first gun. She had shot my guns and I knew what she could and could not handle.
I don't think that's a good choice for any new shooter, especially a woman.
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