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    Default Drillings type shotgun/rifle, who knows what is what?

    I have a customer with a Drillings style side x side shotgun/rifle combo.
    Its been passed down from grandfather to father to him and wants some info and possible value. He's not looking to sell it, just wants to know.
    I've Google'd my ass off and can only find a bit of info.

    It has a stamping of H. Burgsmuller & Sohne on the right barrel.
    It has a stamping of Kreiensen / Harz stamped on the left barrel.
    Stamped on the bottom is 12ga and 8,7mm x 72
    On the bottom there is a stamping KLETT-FLUSS-STAHL, which i have found to be "fluid steel" which seems to be very good quality metal back in the day.

    Other than that, it has some proof marks which i can not find any info for online.
    I need to get pictures up for show and tell.
    Neat gun. Rear sight is spring loaded, it flips up when the safety is disengaged. A few other small buttons near the safety, no clue.
    A selector on the left side that I am assuming is for the rifle or shotgun selection.
    I have not dry fired it to see if the double triggers are set trigger and fire trigger or one for the shotgun and one for the rifle. Nor will do so lol.

    Any info would be great.
    Give me a few hours or tomorrow to get some pics posted.
    Thanks
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    Last edited by Nate7667; April 25th, 2017 at 07:25 PM. Reason: added pics
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    Default Re: Drillings type shotgun/rifle, who knows what it what?

    More often than not, one trigger operates the shotgun barrels, the other is for the rifle barrel.

    I'll be needing pictures to figure out things.
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    Default Re: Drillings type shotgun/rifle, who knows what it what?

    H. Burgsmuller & Sohne is the manufacturer

    Kreiensen / Harz is where it was made.

    If it only has two barrels - it is a combination gun. 3 barrels = drilling. 4 barrels = vierling. I cant remember what the 5, 6, etc barrel guns are called.
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    Default Re: Drillings type shotgun/rifle, who knows what it what?

    Seems to still be in business, although no longer making firearms. Perhaps you could contact the company directly. http://www.burgsmueller.de/en/contact-persons.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by knight0334 View Post
    H. Burgsmuller & Sohne is the manufacturer

    Kreiensen / Harz is where it was made.

    If it only has two barrels - it is a combination gun. 3 barrels = drilling. 4 barrels = vierling. I cant remember what the 5, 6, etc barrel guns are called.
    Gatling????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus99 View Post
    Seems to still be in business, although no longer making firearms. Perhaps you could contact the company directly. http://www.burgsmueller.de/en/contact-persons.html
    I saw that site, just didnt think about contacting them due to their product line.
    Thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by bamboomaster View Post
    Gatling????
    LMAO pretty much

    Yeah, 3 barrels. Two sidexside 12 and a 8,7mm x 72
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    Default Re: Drillings type shotgun/rifle, who knows what it what?

    The crowned "eagles" are Austrian blackpowder proofs.
    The number if you can see it in the Eagles body can help determine the approximate year of manufacture.

    The Crown S is a German blackpowder proof.
    Crown W is a choke mark, I'm not sure what choke it is for.
    Crown U is an inspectors mark.


    http://www.nramuseum.com/media/940944/proofmarks.pdf

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    Thanks!
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    Default Re: Drillings type shotgun/rifle, who knows what it what?

    Two barrels = zwilling, or "twin" auf deutsch.

    knight0334 nailed it otherwise.

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