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    Default Re: 10.5" or 16"+ 300 BlackOut Upper 1/7 or 1/8 Twist?

    take the money an paper the lower as an sbr.
    it's only metal, we can out think it....

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    Default Re: 10.5" or 16"+ 300 BlackOut Upper 1/7 or 1/8 Twist?

    Quote Originally Posted by brian View Post
    take the money an paper the lower as an sbr.
    Considering it. Just not sure I want to wait that long.

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    Default Re: 10.5" or 16"+ 300 BlackOut Upper 1/7 or 1/8 Twist?

    The wait sucks...but is worth it.
    That one lower can then have any length of upper you choose.
    it's only metal, we can out think it....

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    Default Re: 10.5" or 16"+ 300 BlackOut Upper 1/7 or 1/8 Twist?

    See now I am getting other ideas in me head.

    From starting an 308AR build to a 1-6x24 ACSS scope. Not to mention finishing my AR pistol build I have already with little things here or there that I want to add.

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    Default Re: 10.5" or 16"+ 300 BlackOut Upper 1/7 or 1/8 Twist?

    Quote Originally Posted by danhr View Post
    I think you are missing my point, and are just looking for any mistake to point out.... Let me take a more direct approach.

    In 300 blackout, a bolt action rifle with a 16" barrel makes sense, as you mentioned. This is because you can't go any shorter, without making an SBR. Making your example of the Ruger Ranch with a 16" barrel essentially an apples to oranges comparison. It is borderline irrelevant. This is because there are not pistol bolt action firearms, so one can not easily put a <16" barrel on a bolt action.

    The idea of putting a 16" barrel, in 300 blackout, especially when the OP already has a pistol lower, is fairly strange, in my opinion. I honestly can't think of a reason on why someone would elect to use a 16" barrel in 300 BO, when they already have a pistol lower, other than you reason of your Ruger Ranch holding 1.5 MOA with a 3-9 power scop (which quite honestly I'm failing to see the relevance).
    Remington XP100.

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    Default Re: 10.5" or 16"+ 300 BlackOut Upper 1/7 or 1/8 Twist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xringshooter View Post
    In the OP's first post he mentioned putting it on a pistol OR a rifle (and as such would require a 16" barrel) and you did not qualify your response when you out of hand said no to a 16" barrel. I agree that for a PISTOL a 10.5" barrel in 300 BO is the max I would go, but if he is thinking about a RIFLE, then a 16" 300 BO barrel on a 6920 lower should make a good shooting rifle, thus the qualifying accuracy I listed with the equipment I posted. There is no reason that an AR in 300 BO couldn't do that.

    I guess we'll have to agree to disagree because I can see a lot of reasons for a person electing to use a 16" barreled 300 BO.

    Oh, and BTW, there are actually bolt action handguns that are not custom builds, just not one in 300 BO (that I know of)
    Xp100 came in 223 so its just a new barrel.

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    Default Re: 10.5" or 16"+ 300 BlackOut Upper 1/7 or 1/8 Twist?

    Maybe I'm just old school in my thinking but honestly what's the point of a heavy bulky AR "pistol" in this caliber or any caliber really ? You still have to use both hands /arms to shoot it , it's heavy as hell with a 30 rd mag full of 220 gr subs, and at that your not going to be near as accurate or fast with it compared to the same thing with a butt stock on your shoulder. And your saving what 5.5"in length like I said old school but I would rather have accuracy and speed of a carbine no matter what the caliber. Not knocking those who choose to own AR "pistols" just don't really understand the logic

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    Default Re: 10.5" or 16"+ 300 BlackOut Upper 1/7 or 1/8 Twist?

    Well dang, I thought cool was reason enough.

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    Default Re: 10.5" or 16"+ 300 BlackOut Upper 1/7 or 1/8 Twist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Ault View Post
    Maybe I'm just old school in my thinking but honestly what's the point of a heavy bulky AR "pistol" in this caliber or any caliber really ? You still have to use both hands /arms to shoot it , it's heavy as hell with a 30 rd mag full of 220 gr subs, and at that your not going to be near as accurate or fast with it compared to the same thing with a butt stock on your shoulder. And your saving what 5.5"in length like I said old school but I would rather have accuracy and speed of a carbine no matter what the caliber. Not knocking those who choose to own AR "pistols" just don't really understand the logic
    To each their own... Me personally I'm not sure I want to go through the hassle of it all to make it an SBR. Yes I'd like an SBR.

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    Default Re: 10.5" or 16"+ 300 BlackOut Upper 1/7 or 1/8 Twist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunsnwater View Post
    Well dang, I thought cool was reason enough.
    Kool would be carrying it in a kydex iwb holster ! Lol it may print though.....

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