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    Default Re: Top 3 worst gun states---and #1 is????

    Quote Originally Posted by mikelets456 View Post
    All I have to say is a NJ gun owner is not the same as a PA/TN gun owner---for the most part. It seems when I talk to numerous NJ gun owners they're okay with certain training requirements, permits and other onerous regulations. Mention that to a PA gun owner and you'll be excoriated..
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikelets456 View Post
    All I have to say is a NJ gun owner is not the same as a PA/TN gun owner---for the most part. It seems when I talk to numerous NJ gun owners they're okay with certain training requirements, permits and other onerous regulations. Mention that to a PA gun owner and you'll be excoriated..
    I'm a former nj resident who had to go through the double background check crap they make you do. It was just another way to make people wait for 3 months before getting any firearm. The day I got my full pa drivers license I submitted my paperwork for ltcf and bought a sig p320 just to celebrate my escape from hell

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    Default Re: Top 3 worst gun states---and #1 is????

    Here are some stats on the most heavily armed states... Take it for what you will...

    1, Kentucky
    Population:4,314,113
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents (Dec. 2008 – May 2010): 134,028

    2, Utah
    Population:2,784,572
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 30,315

    3, Montana
    Population:974,989
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 25,745

    4, Wyoming
    Population:544,270
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 22,827

    5, Alaska
    Population:698,473
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 22,273

    6, West Virginia
    Population:1,819,777
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 21,455

    7, South Dakota
    Population:812,383
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 19,062

    8, North Dakota
    Population:646,844
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 17,829

    9, Arkansas
    Population:2,889,450
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 17,483

    10, Alabama
    Population:4,708,708
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 16,860

    11, Tennessee
    Population: 6,296,254
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 16,684

    12, Oklahoma
    Population: 3,687,050
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 15,801

    13, Idaho
    Population: 1,545,801
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 15,764

    14, Colorado
    Population: 5,024,748
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 15,086

    15, Missouri
    Population: 5,987,580
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 14,712

    16, New Hampshire
    Population: 1,324,575
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 14,522

    17, Mississippi
    Population: 2,951,996
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 14,165

    18, Illinois
    Population: 12,910,409
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 13,879

    19, Connecticut
    Population: 3,518,288
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 13,783

    20, New Mexico
    Population: 2,009,671
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 13,408

    21, Louisiana
    Population: 4,492,076
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 13,329

    22, Minnesota
    Population: 5,266,214
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 13,285

    23, Kansas
    Population: 2,818,747
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 12,516

    24, Washington
    Population: 6,664,195
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 12,508

    25, Pennsylvania
    Population: 12,604,767
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 12,449

    26, Oregon
    Population: 3,825,657
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 12,059

    27, Indiana
    Population: 6,423,113
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 11,614

    28, South Carolina
    Population: 4,561,242
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 11,578

    29, Maine
    Population: 1,318,301
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 11,528

    30, Virginia
    Population: 7,882,590
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 10,134

    31, Iowa
    Population: 3,007,856
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 10,127

    32, Nevada
    Population: 2,643,085
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 10,115

    33, Texas
    Population: 24,782,302
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 9,936

    34, North Carolina
    Population: 9,380,884
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 9,411

    35, Vermont
    Population: 621,760
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 9,366

    36, Georgia
    Population: 9,829,211
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 9,200

    37, Michigan
    Population: 9,969,727
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 9,030

    38, Wisconsin
    Population: 5,654,774
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 8,534

    39, Ohio
    Population: 11,542,645
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 8,491

    40, Nebraska
    Population: 1,796,619
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 8,081

    41, Arizona
    Population: 6,595,778
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 7,954

    42, Florida
    Population: 18,537,969
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 7,510

    43, Delaware
    Population: 885,122
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 5,636

    44, California
    Population: 36,961,664
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 5,444

    45, Maryland
    Population: 5,699,478
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 4,040

    46, Massachusetts
    Population: 6,593,587
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 3,796

    47, Rhode Island
    Population: 1,053,209
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 3,504

    48, New York
    Population: 19,541,453
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 3,047

    49, Hawaii
    Population: 1,295,178
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 2,031

    50, New Jersey
    Population: 8,707,739
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 1,536

    51, Washington, D.C.
    Population: 599,657
    NICS background checks per 100,000 residents: 155

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    Default Re: Top 3 worst gun states---and #1 is????

    Quote Originally Posted by Hokkmike View Post
    Here are some stats on the most heavily armed states... Take it for what you will...
    Don't forget there are states where a carry permit exempts some folks from NICs so that may change a few positions, but not for the anti states at the bottom.

    From the BATFE: Are there transfers that are exempt from the NICS background check requirement?

    Firearm transfers are exempt from the requirement for a NICS background check in three situations. These include transfers: (1) to transferees having a State permit that has been recognized by ATF as an alternative to a NICS check; (2) of National Firearms Act weapons to persons approved by ATF; and (3) certified by ATF as exempt because compliance with the NICS background check requirement is impracticable.

    [18 U.S.C. 922(t); 27 CFR 478.102(d)]
    Last Reviewed September 23, 2016

    https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regula...y-permit-chart
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    Kentucky is skewed as they do a NICS check monthly on every concealed carry license.
    Utah has a huge number of non resident carry licenses

    Wyoming,Montana and Alaska? They just have a lot of gun nuts.
    Last edited by clarencecoffee; April 9th, 2017 at 08:55 PM.
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    Default Re: Top 3 worst gun states---and #1 is????

    New Jersey is also the # 1 state for people moving to Pennsylvania. New York is # 2.

    Data from 2015 which was the last available year-

    http://www.pennlive.com/news/2017/04...ve_pennsy.html

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    Default Re: Top 3 worst gun states---and #1 is????

    Ohio allows FTF handgun sales with no paperwork as do many other places.

    PA forces paperwork on handgun sales between individuals.

    with today's mobile population and different NICS rules in different places, it's like comparing apples and orangutans.
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    NJ, Hawaii, and MD are worst for carry, in decreasing order.

    Normal people do carry in New York depending on where they live. It is possible in MD depending on profession. But most can't. NJ and HI are right out. MD has weird AWB laws like NY, perhaps not as bad, not sure. But most MD residents can never get a carry permit, and that puts them in the bottom 3 IMO.
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    And when subjects from New Jersey or Maryland cross the frontier and see citizens of Pennsylvania open carrying? That must eat at their innards, or make them leave a puddle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Statkowski View Post
    And when subjects from New Jersey or Maryland cross the frontier and see citizens of Pennsylvania open carrying? That must eat at their innards, or make them leave a puddle.
    One time I and my then GF's boss nearly made a couple LEO's from NJ leave a puddle..

    About 12 years ago there was a restaurant called Maxwell Street near the mall in DuBois that I ate at nearly every day due to a GF working there. ...well I was already at the counter to order when a couple LEO's from NJ came walking in. ..they hadn't seen my OC'd 1911 until I moved up to bullshit over the counter with the GF and her boss. At that moment I saw my GF's boss's eyes open up wide towards the LEO's. ....they had apparently went to DEFCON 2 after noticing my gun - hands on guns in holsters and taking a Weaver stance. I then eased my head towards them, saw what was going on, saw their uniforms/badges, and said "Easy guys, you aren't in Jersey anymore." Then my GF's boss reached down and pulled up an AK(BTW - he was still in Army National Guard between tours). They nearly shit themselves..

    The boss chilled them out though with some smooth talking and jokes. Those two officers finally eased up and realized their situation. They ended up sitting adjacent to me and we struck up conversation. They weren't used to seeing normal folks OC, but they really weren't against it either. They were being sent to I think Ohio or Indiana to pick up an extradition.
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