Has anyone built a concealment shelf??

[donotknowme]

I have a big bowl of peanuts in the shell sitting on a table.

[Gunsnwater]

Concealment serves a purpose. I have weapons concealed in my home. As you pointed out, not a solution to keep guns away from kids. But if I had any kids in this country that were pinned on me they would probably be trustworthy around firearms unless I ended up with a malfunctioning one that I had to hit a lot.

Father of the Year.

[Gunsnwater]

I have a big bowl of peanuts in the shell sitting on a table.

By peanuts you mean rubbers?

[Bang]

want one for my bedroom and the kids won't know how to open it. I want to keep a pistol in it, no magazine in it, nothing in the chamber. My safe is downstairs, we sleep upstairs and I won't just keep a pistol laying around.

Uhhh....why not just leave it in the safe. It'll be just as useful if needed.

[donotknowme]

Uhhh....why not just leave it in the safe. It'll be just as useful if needed.

You can't pistol whip someone with a safe.

[ungawa]

Father of the Year.

My dad showed me where his handgun was when I was 4. He was not really like, "Hey, little ungawa, here is a gun if you need it." It was more of an educational thing. That was the year I learned to shoot .22 and my dad taught me his version of "The Rules" of both safe gun handling and NOT gun handling. It was similar to Jeff Cooper but bastardized and a little incomplete.

1. Never pull a gun unless you plan to use it.
2. If you shoot, shoot to kill.
3. All guns are always loaded. More people are killed with unloaded guns. (not exactly true) Do you know what dead means? "Yes, Dad. It means you have to go to the hospital." No, it means you are dead for good. And you never come back.
4. Never point a gun at anything you don't want to destroy. It will probably go off.
5. (did not cover finger off the trigger)
6. Don't touch the guns without asking.

Then we started acquiring firearms and it was obvious where they were, they were not hidden from me. People did not use safes back then. You'd be lucky to have them in a glass gun cabinet. There was no epidemic of kids getting shot by accident. I'm not saying it's wrong to secure your firearms around kids, I'm providing a different perspective.

By the time I was 11 half the guns were in my bedroom. I knew I was not allowed to take them out of the house without advanced permission unless I had to confront a trespasser or an animal (both of which I did). BB guns I could do what I wanted with. Probably around 15 or 16 the guns became truly entrusted to me and it was up to me within reason to do what I wanted with them without asking permission.

[pacodelahoya]

Concealment serves a purpose. I have weapons concealed in my home. As you pointed out, not a solution to keep guns away from kids. But if I had any kids in this country that were pinned on me they would probably be trustworthy around firearms unless I ended up with a malfunctioning one that I had to hit a lot.

Saves me a lot of typing

[Bang]

I have to wonder about the fireplace mantels and clocks and other "secret gun-holders" shown at gun shows and advertised in magazines...like bad people do not come across them and remember them when they break in.

I kind of like the in the wall "safe", though. A burglar doesn't want to spend forever in a home, generally. I'd have nothing else but a note in it for when they get it open. "Congratulations. You have wasted time needed for police to answer the silent alarm. Thank you, asshole."

[free]

As for locking up everything away from children....

My dad locked shit up in a closet with a decent lock on it.

His approach was easily defeated by simply removing the hinge pings on the closet. I could access whatever I wanted, whenever I wanted, and did so.

Dad's approach was sub-optimal.

[Roadking]

I've toyed with this idea...
The hardware isn't all that expensive
Surprisingly, my wife showed it to me...

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