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    Default Re: Pistol storage. How do you store yours?

    Quote Originally Posted by ethangsmith View Post
    I've thought about a standard gun safe, but even with the hangers and door pockets, I'd have a ton of wasted space inside. I have a few rifles, but maybe only about 6 or so. As for what I'm looking for- they don't necessarily have to be at my fingertips at any second, but I'd like an organized, easy to get to format. Digging in the little cabinet I have is a pain and I often end up smacking the edges of the cabinet trying to get the pistols in and out. And I've got it more than full already- some are stack on top of each other in it. I like to store my magazines with or near the gun since several of the guns I own take nearly identical mags. I don't want to get them mixed up! And yes, I'd like something secure in case anyone breaks in the house and I'm not home. I don't have children and rarely, if ever, are there small children anywhere near my gun storage area. It was suggested to buy an old wooden chest and then store my pistols in that using either foam blocks or some other type of system, but I don't have enough space for that (I live in an old rowhome).
    Hey if it got to be too much of a bother maybe I'll take some off your hands :-) seriously

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    Default Re: Pistol storage. How do you store yours?

    Quote Originally Posted by ethangsmith View Post
    Hi folks,

    I have probably 20 or so pistols (Semi-auto and revolvers) of varying sizes and lengths. For now, I am storing the bulk of them in a Stack-On cabinet that more suited for ammo storage than pistol storage. It's hard to get them in and out of the shelves. I'm looking for a better storage solution without taking up a lot of space.

    Thanks,

    -Ethan.
    I understand space is an issue, however with a 20+ gun collection you need to step up into a real safe. At $200.00 a gun and that's guessing low you have a 4K gun collection. IMO you need to step up your security game as well as fire protection. Stack-on is really kid safe and that's about it. Any burglar worth his weight in cow shit will get right in. I am not busting your balls but you have a lot to look after and keep secure. I also advocate the gun socks that are pre oiled.


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    Default Re: Pistol storage. How do you store yours?

    Not to burst anyone's bubble about security, but the majority of NEW safes that are dedicated gun safes or not the most secure and that includes big brands between $8,000 and $12,000. I've done my due diligence and don't have time to give in Epic explanation on all subject matter but for what it's worth the best safes are typically not marketed as dedicated gun safes at Price levels that the majority of people are probably going to want to spend or possibly even afford, because they may want to buy a small car or something more practical for the same money.

    Another poster here mentioned about a decoy safe with some cheap stuff in it, and many times for the average crackhead, high school punks, or even amateur crook that should do the job, as you will have some slightly better safe and in very inconveniently accessible area with the real family jewels in it as it were. Great suggestion!

    If you fit into the category of average American family you probably don't have a collection thats going to be targeted by professional thieves and unless you have diarrhea of the mouth every time you're out and socialize with miscreant or friends who have miscreant acquaintances. Typically even some cheap Fort Knox or Cannon Safe would be a visual deterrent for people who are not in the know but with anybody to slightly above an amateur see if you can defeat those things and a would be a visual deterrent for people who are not in the know; but with anybody to slightly above an amateur skill set knows you can defeat those things and a ridiculously short amount of time with simple pry bars and I don't feel like getting into that here. Just buy something it makes it inconvenient for people to get in lowlife Steve don't like a lot of attention and don't want to spend a lot of time in there anyhow.

    For those with truly rare collections seriously high-dollar stuff, the protection level is it going to be out of the average person's budget anyhow. So really there's very little difference between a $600 on sale safe at Tractor Supply and most safes around $10,000. The differences that you're going to see for protection are going to be soon minuscule but where you are paying more for is the name the bells and whistles the size, and a little better fire protection time. Buy a cheap safe to make it inconvenient and spend your money on guns. You can get a decently sized safe for maybe $1,500 to $2,000 that doesn't look like trash and can put a good bit of stuff in it if you shop around. Just don't expect it to be Fort Knox and I'm not talking about that brand :-) anything above that to the threshold I mentioned before is a false sense of security for the purchaser.

    If you feel like qualifying my comments please do so you'll come to the same understanding if you spend the time and make the connections I did to do it myself.

    Let's say you want better protection you just have to have better protection but you don't have heavy money to plunk down on a good quality safe that are actually a decent size. Talk to locksmiths go to estate sales after you do research and find out what non-gun safes offer more serious protection which are still lower end but started around $20,000 to $30,000 brand-new and are selling for quite a bit less than that used. No granted these are not going to be the biggest safes in the world. Actually the majority of them are probably going to be disappointingly small as well as not be the most pretty thing you've ever laid eyes on and be ridiculously heavy. You can pick them up for $3,000 to $5,000 used usually maybe a bit more.

    Now I've given you a good place to start period Google will be your best utility moving forward so take this nugget understanding and run with it and if it's truly what you want and either direction you'll be a lot happier for it whether you have true security or just good enough to store your stuff and make it inconvenient you truly now having options to do either way that would fit into the budget of most people, whether it's a $600 or an $800 dollar safe on sale up to one of those $5,000 used jobs.

    All the best in finding a solution that works for you. I hope this is helpful.
    Last edited by ammo; March 20th, 2017 at 12:03 AM.

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    Default Re: Pistol storage. How do you store yours?

    There are Stack-on safes and there are Stack-on cabinets.

    Any "real" crook is going to get into any safe, any halfwitted crackhead is going to get into a cabinet.
    Unless you advertise that you have the Crown Jewels in your safe, I doubt you're going to have many professional thieves breaking into your safe.

    My buddy worked at a scrap yard.
    One of those Farm and Fleet safes was brought in that had been in a fire.
    Once locked, we used fire dept halligan bars and a long crowbar to get in.
    Took some time, like a long time.
    I doubt any crackhead would have the patience that we did.
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    Default Re: Pistol storage. How do you store yours?

    A hidden room is always the best bet.
    A hidden space in a wall is also good.
    If you are a bachelor and never use the oven, there is lots of space under there to hide handguns.
    Etc...
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    Default Re: Pistol storage. How do you store yours?

    I have a small stack on safe for my 20 or so guns. I bought one of those gun safe door organizers. It was too big for my safe so I cut it down and contact cemented it to the door. I bought extra velcro holsters for it and have about 8 handguns hanging on the door of my gun safe. It works for me.

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    Default Re: Pistol storage. How do you store yours?

    I have this exact door storage for my safe.
    liberty-accessory-door-panel-for-30-35-40-size-gun-safes-6-249x300.jpg
    The problem is some big frame revolvers won't fit because the shelf gets in the way.
    One thing I never liked the idea of is those barrel hanging rods like this.
    Gun-Storage-Rifle-Rod-Handgun-Hanger-8.jpg
    Anybody around here use those?

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    Default Re: Pistol storage. How do you store yours?

    Quote Originally Posted by ammo View Post
    Not to burst anyone's bubble about security, but the majority of NEW safes that are dedicated gun safes or not the most secure and that includes big brands between $8,000 and $12,000. I've done my due diligence and don't have time to give in Epic explanation on all subject matter but for what it's worth the best safes are typically not marketed as dedicated gun safes at Price levels that the majority of people are probably going to want to spend or possibly even afford, because they may want to buy a small car or something more practical for the same money.

    Another poster here mentioned about a decoy safe with some cheap stuff in it, and many times for the average crackhead, high school punks, or even amateur crook that should do the job, as you will have some slightly better safe and in very inconveniently accessible area with the real family jewels in it as it were. Great suggestion!

    If you fit into the category of average American family you probably don't have a collection thats going to be targeted by professional thieves and unless you have diarrhea of the mouth every time you're out and socialize with miscreant or friends who have miscreant acquaintances. Typically even some cheap Fort Knox or Cannon Safe would be a visual deterrent for people who are not in the know but with anybody to slightly above an amateur see if you can defeat those things and a would be a visual deterrent for people who are not in the know; but with anybody to slightly above an amateur skill set knows you can defeat those things and a ridiculously short amount of time with simple pry bars and I don't feel like getting into that here. Just buy something it makes it inconvenient for people to get in lowlife Steve don't like a lot of attention and don't want to spend a lot of time in there anyhow.

    For those with truly rare collections seriously high-dollar stuff, the protection level is it going to be out of the average person's budget anyhow. So really there's very little difference between a $600 on sale safe at Tractor Supply and most safes around $10,000. The differences that you're going to see for protection are going to be soon minuscule but where you are paying more for is the name the bells and whistles the size, and a little better fire protection time. Buy a cheap safe to make it inconvenient and spend your money on guns. You can get a decently sized safe for maybe $1,500 to $2,000 that doesn't look like trash and can put a good bit of stuff in it if you shop around. Just don't expect it to be Fort Knox and I'm not talking about that brand :-) anything above that to the threshold I mentioned before is a false sense of security for the purchaser.

    If you feel like qualifying my comments please do so you'll come to the same understanding if you spend the time and make the connections I did to do it myself.

    Let's say you want better protection you just have to have better protection but you don't have heavy money to plunk down on a good quality safe that are actually a decent size. Talk to locksmiths go to estate sales after you do research and find out what non-gun safes offer more serious protection which are still lower end but started around $20,000 to $30,000 brand-new and are selling for quite a bit less than that used. No granted these are not going to be the biggest safes in the world. Actually the majority of them are probably going to be disappointingly small as well as not be the most pretty thing you've ever laid eyes on and be ridiculously heavy. You can pick them up for $3,000 to $5,000 used usually maybe a bit more.

    Now I've given you a good place to start period Google will be your best utility moving forward so take this nugget understanding and run with it and if it's truly what you want and either direction you'll be a lot happier for it whether you have true security or just good enough to store your stuff and make it inconvenient you truly now having options to do either way that would fit into the budget of most people, whether it's a $600 or an $800 dollar safe on sale up to one of those $5,000 used jobs.

    All the best in finding a solution that works for you. I hope this is helpful.
    I agree totally. Gun safes are very over rated. Proper INSURANCE is where it is at. I have a basic liberty safe 23 gun that I inherited. My next safe will be the cheapest model of half decent quality that I can find. My reasons for having a safe are #1 To keep my guns secure from children #2 as a mere deterrent to common thieves.

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    Default Re: Pistol storage. How do you store yours?

    Quote Originally Posted by P89 View Post
    One thing I never liked the idea of is those barrel hanging rods like this.
    Gun-Storage-Rifle-Rod-Handgun-Hanger-8.jpg
    Anybody around here use those?
    I don't use these, but (assuming they can handle the weight of the gun) I don't see anything wrong with them. Being plastic/rubber coated they are less damaging to the gun than anything we use to clean the gun.

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    Default Re: Pistol storage. How do you store yours?

    Quote Originally Posted by P89 View Post
    I have this exact door storage for my safe.
    liberty-accessory-door-panel-for-30-35-40-size-gun-safes-6-249x300.jpg
    The problem is some big frame revolvers won't fit because the shelf gets in the way.
    One thing I never liked the idea of is those barrel hanging rods like this.
    Gun-Storage-Rifle-Rod-Handgun-Hanger-8.jpg
    Anybody around here use those?
    I bought a rack of those hangers.
    I quickly realized that if you have long guns like South American Mausers and M91 Mosins in your safe, you will be banging stuff around with handguns hanging lower than the shelf.
    After I knocked a couple handguns off with the muzzle of a long gun, I tossed it out.

    I wasn't particularly keen on something staying in contact with the bore anyway.
    Probably a nonissue but I kept thinking about a little moisture getting trapped between the hanger and rifling.
    Again, probably not an issue, just something I wondered about.
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