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    Default European Parliament Passes Stringent New Gun Controls

    https://www.nraila.org/articles/2017...w-gun-controls

    European Parliament Passes Stringent New Gun Controls
    March 17, 2017

    On March 14, the European Union completed one of the final steps in imposing stringent new gun controls across the political bloc, when the European Parliament approved legislation to alter the EU Firearms Directive by a vote of 491 to 178. The Firearms Directive was last amended in 2008. Passage comes after a deal to significantly alter the European Commission’s initial proposal was struck last December between the European Parliament and European Council. The legislation is now set to be approved by the European Council.

    Following the terrorist attacks in Paris on November 13, 2015, the European Union expedited plans to overhaul the Firearms Directive, which sets forth the minimum threshold of gun control that each Member State must enact. Issued November 18, 2015, the draft proposal from the European Commission contained a number of onerous restrictions, most notably a vague ban on commonly-owned semi-automatic firearms.

    The initial draft was met with harsh criticism in countries with strong traditions of civilian gun ownership and participation in the shooting sports, such as the Czech Republic, Germany, and Poland. Switzerland and Finland also held concerns that the proposal would impede their national defense, as it could have curtailed the ability of their reservists to train with and possess firearms.

    After much negotiation, on December 20, 2016 the European Parliament and European Council announced that they had reached an agreement on a heavily amended version of the European Commission’s proposal. It was this amended version of the legislation that Members of the European Parliament passed this week. It is expected that the European Council will approve of this legislation without significant delay.

    Significant Changes to the EU Firearms Directive

    The most significant changes in the legislation would further restrict semi-automatic firearms and magazines, alter the current firearm licensing categories, require additional qualifications for gun owner licensing, and impose additional marking and registration requirements.

    Semi-automatic Firearms and Magazines

    Under the current Firearms Directive, automatic firearms are considered “Category A – Prohibited firearms,” which civilians are generally prohibited from possessing. Semi-automatic firearms are considered “Category B – Firearms subject to authorization,” which civilians are permitted to possess subject to government permission.

    In their initial proposal, the European Commission sought to place several types of commonly-owned semi-automatic firearms in Category A, barring civilian ownership of “Semi-automatic firearms for civilian use which resemble weapons with automatic mechanisms.”

    The European Parliament’s legislation has curtailed this ambiguous ban. The updated legislation places into Category A, “Automatic firearms which have been converted into semi-automatic firearms,” and, “Semi-automatic long firearms… that can be reduced to a length of less than 60cm without losing functionality by means of a folding or telescoping stock or by a stock that can be removed without using tools.”

    It also places the following center fire semi-automatic firearms into Category A:

    (a) short firearms which allow the firing of more than 21 rounds without reloading, if:

    (i) a loading device with a capacity exceeding 20 rounds is part of that firearm; or
    (ii) a detachable loading device with a capacity exceeding 20 rounds is inserted into it;

    (b) long firearms which allow the firing of more than 11 rounds without reloading, if:

    (i) a loading device with a capacity exceeding 10 rounds is part of that firearm; or
    (ii) a detachable loading device with a capacity exceeding 10 rounds is inserted into it.

    Further, a change to Category B explicitly states that Category B (firearms permitted for civilian ownership pursuant to government authorization) includes “Semi-automatic firearms for civilian use which resemble weapons with automatic mechanisms” other than those described above.

    Under this regime, an individual is still permitted to possess a semi-automatic firearm like the AR-15, as long as it is not equipped with a magazine with a capacity greater than 10 rounds.

    In an attempt to address Switzerland’s concern that it would have to alter the tradition of permitting former members of the Swiss militia system to keep their service rifles upon completing their service, the new legislation specifically exempts Swiss practice from the Category A restriction on firearms converted from automatic to semi-automatic, providing,

    Member States applying a military system based on general conscription and having in place over the last 50 years a system of transfer of military firearms to persons leaving the army after fulfilling their military duties may grant to those persons, in their capacity as a target shooter, an authorization to keep one firearm used during the mandatory military period. The relevant public authority shall transform those firearms into semi-automatic firearms and shall periodically check that the persons using such firearms do not represent a risk to public security.

    The new legislation also permits Member States to authorize target shooters to possess the semi-automatic firearms and magazines in Category A. However, to do so the shooter must provide proof that they are “actively practicing for or participating in shooting competitions recognized by an officially recognized shooting sports organization of the Member State concerned or by an internationally established and officially recognized shooting sport federation.”

    Further Changes to Firearms Categories

    In addition to moving certain configurations of semi-automatic firearms into Category A, the legislation shifts other types of firearms to new categories.

    Under the current Firearms Directive, “Category C — Firearms and weapons subject to declaration” consists primarily of single-shot rifles and certain types of shotguns. To possess a Category C firearm, the possessor must declare to their government that they have the firearm. Single–shot shotguns fall under Category D and are not subject to restriction.

    The legislation to alter the Firearms Directive removes Category D, moving the types of firearms covered by the category into Category C. Therefore, under the new legislation, possession of all firearms will be subject to some form of government oversight.

    Further, the new legislation makes clear that any firearm “that has been converted to firing blanks, irritants, other active substances or pyrotechnic rounds or into a salute or acoustic weapon,” remains within its initial category for regulatory purposes.

    Gun Owner Licensing and Qualifications

    The new legislation changes the licensing (authorization) requirements for acquisition and possession of firearms.

    Member States must establish “a monitoring system, which they may operate on a continuous or non-continuous basis, to ensure that the conditions of authorization set by national law are met throughout the duration of the authorization,” and requires that “Where any of the conditions of authorization is no longer met, Member States shall withdraw the respective authorization.” Moreover, Member States have to ensure that in the authorization process “relevant medical and psychological information is assessed.” Member States are required to review authorizations for the possession of firearms, at minimum, once every five years.

    Markings and Registration

    The legislation imposes significant new requirements for the marking of firearms in order to facilitate an onerous registration scheme.

    Any firearm or “essential component” – including frames, upper and lower receivers, slides, cylinders, barrels, bolts, and breech blocks– must be “provided with a clear, permanent and unique marking.” The European Commission is tasked with “establishing technical specifications for the marking.”

    Member States are also required to create a comprehensive firearms registration database that the legislation describes as a “data-filing system [that] shall record all information relating to firearms which is needed in order to trace and identify those firearms.”

    Moreover, Member States must,

    ensure that the record of firearms and the essential components, including the related personal data, is retained in the data-filing systems by the competent authorities for a period of 30 years after the destruction of the firearms or essential components in question.

    In order to populate this registry, Member States are required to make sure “dealers and brokers established in their territory report transactions involving firearms or essential components without undue delay to the national competent authorities,” and that “dealers and brokers have an electronic connection to those authorities for such reporting purposes and that the data-filing systems are updated immediately upon receipt of information concerning such transactions.”

    The legislation to change the Firearms Directive was under the jurisdiction of the European Parliament’s Committee on the Internal Market and Consumer Protection, chaired by UK MEP Vicky Ford. During debate on the legislation, Ford noted that “This negotiation has been a long and difficult process.” Ford, who has previously been critical of the European Commission’s original draft proposal, also took one last opportunity to denounce the bureaucratic body, stating, “It’s unfortunate that the original proposal came with so many failings from the Commission.”

    The Czech Republic has been among the most outspoken opponents of further EU gun controls, and this opposition continued right up to the European Parliament’s vote. During debate, Czech representatives continued to advocate for the rights of their countrymen, with Czech MEPs Dita Charanzova and Jiri Mastalka rising to challenge the efficacy of legislation that would burden gun owners but do little to curb criminal conduct.

    Even with the carve-out for their reservists, some Swiss politicians have registered their opposition to the passage of this legislation, pointing out the bill’s magazine restrictions for criticism. The Swiss Shooting Federation issued a strong repudiation of the legislation, pointing out that the country rejected further gun control in a national referendum in 2011. The Swiss are not members of the EU but would be bound to follow the directive as part of their relationship with the transnational bloc.

    Still, some of the EU’s most ardent gun controllers didn’t think the new restrictions went far enough. Sweden’s Bodil Valero of the Greens/European Free Alliance contended that the legislation was “a step in the right direction on gun control,” but that, “we would have liked to have been able to secure sharper rules on medical background checks and regulation of large magazines.” Sweden’s Anna Maria Corazza Bildt of the European People’s Party mischaracterized the attack on gun ownership, contending that the parliament had “strengthened security in Europe without restricting the freedom of law-abiding citizens in their spare time.”

    Following the expected European Council’s approval of this legislation, Member States will have 15 months to change their national laws to comply with the updated Firearms Directive. Member States will have 30 months to comply with the directive’s firearms registration database requirements. Given the significant opposition to the amended Firearms Directive’s new restrictions, it should prove interesting to observe how Member States choose to comply with its mandates.
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    Default Re: European Parliament Passes Stringent New Gun Controls

    The Czech Republic has been among the most outspoken opponents of further EU gun controls, and this opposition continued right up to the European Parliament’s vote. During debate, Czech representatives continued to advocate for the rights of their countrymen, with Czech MEPs Dita Charanzova and Jiri Mastalka rising to challenge the efficacy of legislation that would burden gun owners but do little to curb criminal conduct.
    The Czechs are the only country left in Europe with any fucking balls. They are currently fighting for an American type 2nd amendment added to their laws to protect them from this bull shit.

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    Default Re: European Parliament Passes Stringent New Gun Controls

    Wow, too long, but I skimmed enough to see blah blah blah same shit different continent.

    If they want to borrow Diane Feinstein and Gabby Giffords for a year (or 10) that's OK by me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hodgie View Post
    The Czechs are the only country left in Europe with any fucking balls. They are currently fighting for an American type 2nd amendment added to their laws to protect them from this bull shit.
    I hope they have the balls to break off. If they do, I'm seriously going to consider trying to get employment at one of their nukes, just for the experience.



    History repeating itself. People forgetting history. I can't believe any country once under Nazi rule would go for this. We have it here, too, of course. The cradle of our Revolution is one of the most communist shitholes in the country now. Sad.
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    Default Re: European Parliament Passes Stringent New Gun Controls

    May as well just give up the right to vote while you're at it, Europe.

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    Default Re: European Parliament Passes Stringent New Gun Controls

    Ain't nothing compared to what Hillary & Co. had planned.
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    Default Re: European Parliament Passes Stringent New Gun Controls

    We know it is dumb law. Convincing the likes of countries like Sweden and the UK that this will do no good was meaningless effort.

    Poland, the Czech republic, the Baltic states and others who have a real danger on their borders can see how this will affect them directly. The other countries who signed on will now have even more of their national sovereignty eroded.

    Not addressed directly is the real problem: Radicals who are already going to be prohibited from gun ownership, getting guns through legal channels. Of course, the bad guys will simply use the black market to get AKs an RPGs as they have already done, but this simply gives the government permission to turn down applicants for gun licenses w/out appearing to be doing so because of race or religion. For the first time, all individuals must get permission to own any gun, and this permission must be renewed every five years.

    Wow, hows' that for democratic society?

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    Default Re: European Parliament Passes Stringent New Gun Controls

    Didn't someone else disarm the populace once before?

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    Default Re: European Parliament Passes Stringent New Gun Controls

    Yup: the Nazi's did in a very effective manner.

    Here's an example from 1940 Belgium (I Forget the source unfortunately but it fits with the Nazi playbook to a T.)

    After the country surrendered the Nazi administrators and security forces moved in to take over day to day control. One of the first stops was the local police where lists of registered gun owners were taken. Over the next few days all the gun owners were ordered to turn in all registered firearms.

    After a few more days had passed those who did not comply, claimed the guns were lost or stolen, etc... started getting visits by the Gestapo who'd simply shoot the gun owner and his entire family.

    The survivors who hadn't yet received a visit were very prompt in finding and turning in those missing guns.

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    Default Re: European Parliament Passes Stringent New Gun Controls

    Good. This will give the radical islamists an even softer target to invade and attack so maybe they'll focus less on trying shit here where they're more likely to get shot first.

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