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    Default Re: New invention: hybrid between bullpup and conventional firearms

    Quote Originally Posted by Rosco the Iroc View Post
    ah, uh,mmm,ok that's neat.

    Don't know why you posted it on PAFOA. Or what your asking, I assume your asking for something.
    Uh, thank you

    What? Oh, I posted a firearm design on a firearm forum? Of course for discussion about the invention, what is good, what is bad in my design... and make contact if possible, if anyone of you works for the industry.

    Regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by ammo View Post
    While I've not had time to delve into viewing all of the information you've posted, I must advise you, with all due respect, to contact either US and/or International patent attorneys for this if you've not done so already.

    Now I've got a craving for Pho!
    Thank you, already filed patent. Enjoy Pho, it is one of the best from my country.

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    Default Re: New invention: hybrid between bullpup and conventional firearms

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunsnwater View Post
    Good luck.
    Thank you

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    Default Re: New invention: hybrid between bullpup and conventional firearms

    Quote Originally Posted by fallenleader View Post
    "As the independent inventor, I am looking for feedback, comment, and cooperation to design, build and market this invention"
    and investors i'd say. which in all is fine, if it's allowed per rules.

    my main question is, what purpose does this serve? the bullpup is a design that eliminates some problems with a conventional rifle. has the benefit of providing a more compact package.
    a standard rifle has benefits over a bullpup and doesn't suffer the issue of placing your cheek against an explosive action.
    it may be "fun" to have both in one, like a .22/.410 combo gun but what purpose does this product serve other than fun or coolness?

    contact a patent office as others have said. there are countless patents on file for things that make either no sense or no sense to patent, future proofing. if anyone wants to do something similar, bam already patented against it. one day your concept might be the next double barrel pump or dual tube pump. or some other kooky thing that sells like the airbow.
    Thank u for your comment.

    I did patent search but find nothing, so maybe this is original idea

    The purpose of it, not only coolness, but if you look at it from business perspective, it is a significant advantages.

    First of all, there are two markets, the bullpup and the conventional market. So what? If you only build bullpup or conventional gun, you can only access to a single market. If you sell gun in both market, your revenue increases significantly.

    But building two guns to capture two markets is a disadvantage. It increases cost, and risk, e.g. if you build bullpup but the market is low, those guns are wasted.

    With this invention, a gun can be reconfigured to sell in any market, and user can reconfigured it anyone to resell it for different market. A single gun is cheaper to manufacture, lower unit price or increase profit margin, and you also eliminate the risk, e.g. if the bullpup demand is low, you can reconfigure it to sell in different market.

    It also helps you entering new market. Many firearm companies only product bullpup or conventional gun. They don't want the risk to enter new market. With this invention, they can enter new market with nearly zero cost and risk. That is a huge business advantages.

    Regards

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    Default Re: New invention: hybrid between bullpup and conventional firearms

    Quote Originally Posted by Berncly View Post
    I don't know what others are thinking, but my feeling is that the OP is suspect.
    I find it highly doubtful that a private citizen (subject) can design and build firearms in communist Vietnam.
    It is also suspect that said weapons designer would post legitimate firearms designs on this website.
    My original thought was that the attachments were suspect and should not be opened.
    Thank u, just
    Yes, my country is a communist land, can I choose where was I born?

    We can not design and build firearm in Vietnam, but what I done is legal. This is just a concept, and with enough time spending on video game, I can learn about firearm and design it. Even if I can find someone support it, we still not design or manufacture it in Vietnam. What is the problem?

    The attachement are pdfs, and as far as i know, pdf file is safe, only exe file is dangerous. You can scan it with virustotal if you want.

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    Default Re: New invention: hybrid between bullpup and conventional firearms

    Quote Originally Posted by fallenleader View Post
    this kind of went without saying. especially after people were more concerned with food than the designs.
    and this
    "2/ Personal opinion about hunting
    As the sole inventor, I am against the killing of animal for any purpose, which mostly means hunting for fun or for food. Anyone must agree with this condition to buy or use the invention"
    i mean... i did mention eating the neighbors. but i also love critters. deer and bunnies, turkeys and ducks even squirrels.

    the barrel length is the same so there is no advantage in longer ranges, he could field the M4 or the bullpup at all times. shame we couldn't utilize threaded barrel extensions. impossible to get rifling to line up?

    firearm simplicity is a good thing, if it breaks, it should be easy to fix. this does not look like it's making anything more simple.
    KISS and do one thing, do it well.
    Thank u,

    So you did read the pdf?

    Well, if you say KISS, then this design is very simple, you only need a linkage for the trigger and a collapsible stock, both are already used without any problem.

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    Default Re: New invention: hybrid between bullpup and conventional firearms

    Quote Originally Posted by Bang View Post
    Generally, over decades of living, I do not believe I have seen a two-in-one design that did not do both jobs at 80 percent, as opposed to a dedicated design which reaches 100 percent. The designs on paper look interesting. The losses due to compromises would show up in the real world. Guess one can only contemplate what the product accomplishes, and is it needed.
    Thank you, maybe it is not good as it seems to be, but I think I should give it a try rather than guessing.

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    Default Re: New invention: hybrid between bullpup and conventional firearms

    Some thing to consider here. This is how a gun guy finds a way to express himself when trapped by birth in an anti gun country. When one has only fantasy and thought experiments their ideas will be full of skewed from our known reality concepts. Just look at how we design around the California and new York garbage to avoid pistol grips and mag releases. Sure he wants investors, how else could his dreams of a gun become reality. We can see design faults right away but we have taken apart, shot, cleaned and studied the actuall guns this man only gets to play video games with, and he's lucky to get to do that. Kindred spirit. He doesn't know our animal rights people are anti gun. He does however, I bet, have experience with the jack boot.

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    Default Re: New invention: hybrid between bullpup and conventional firearms

    why would anyone want or need to change on the fly. bulls are made specifically for their purpose. and like someone else already stated, you cannot serve two masters

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    Default Re: New invention: hybrid between bullpup and conventional firearms

    Quote Originally Posted by lemd View Post
    Thank u for your comment.

    I did patent search but find nothing, so maybe this is original idea

    The purpose of it, not only coolness, but if you look at it from business perspective, it is a significant advantages.

    First of all, there are two markets, the bullpup and the conventional market. So what? If you only build bullpup or conventional gun, you can only access to a single market. If you sell gun in both market, your revenue increases significantly.

    But building two guns to capture two markets is a disadvantage. It increases cost, and risk, e.g. if you build bullpup but the market is low, those guns are wasted.

    With this invention, a gun can be reconfigured to sell in any market, and user can reconfigured it anyone to resell it for different market. A single gun is cheaper to manufacture, lower unit price or increase profit margin, and you also eliminate the risk, e.g. if the bullpup demand is low, you can reconfigure it to sell in different market.

    It also helps you entering new market. Many firearm companies only product bullpup or conventional gun. They don't want the risk to enter new market. With this invention, they can enter new market with nearly zero cost and risk. That is a huge business advantages.

    Regards
    Quote Originally Posted by lemd View Post
    Thank u,

    So you did read the pdf?

    Well, if you say KISS, then this design is very simple, you only need a linkage for the trigger and a collapsible stock, both are already used without any problem.

    Regards
    skimmed, did not read in it's entirety. i appreciate innovation although do not see the market for this, at least not right now.
    that doesn't mean i don't think you should try, i love those electrically launched projectiles that stack in the barrel and etc. even though i don't see a need for them at this time.
    how about weight, this design will require more material and we do see issues with polymer's reliability. how will you keep weight down with metals?
    Quote Originally Posted by R.A.D. View Post
    why would anyone want or need to change on the fly. bulls are made specifically for their purpose. and like someone else already stated, you cannot serve two masters
    lets not crush creativity though.
    the main purpose i see for bullpups is the accuracy of a longer barrel in a shorter package. am i right on this?

    on a side note, he probably doesn't realize that our anti-hunting groups are often anti-gun, or that we're mostly hunters and that we view it as sustainable healthy living Vs mass market poorly treated farm meats. then again he might also be vegetarian, i'm not sure what the typical diet is in vietnam, but isn't is mostly fish/veggie with some pork and chicken?
    "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

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