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    Default Quick question on legality of "holding guns" for someone.

    Theoretical, based on reality of course.

    Handguns...If someone is getting a divorce, and he wants to 'hide' guns and gives them to a friend... Is that legal?

    The two scenarios possible are he gave them to him, to keep, which of course would need a transfer with FFL right?

    The other being, just handed friend guns to keep at another residence with intention of getting them back.. Which not sure if the friend would need ltcf, which i thought they would.


    Finally, long arms.... As far as I know no laws broken if you want to just 'give' one to a friend.

    Any clarification would be helpful. Thanks!
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    Default Re: Quick question on legality of "holding guns" for someone.

    If a good lawyer is involved the guns in question might be treated as hidden property.

    If both parties holds a ltcf the guns can be loaned,
    Don't be an ass.

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    Default Re: Quick question on legality of "holding guns" for someone.

    Quote Originally Posted by normanvin View Post
    If a good lawyer is involved the guns in question might be treated as hidden property.
    If they were acquired after the marriage, they are then marital assets, even if only one of the partners ever used them. Holding them to hide them might well constitute aiding and abetting the commission of a fraud.

    If both parties holds a ltcf the guns can be loaned,
    Only one party has to have an LTCF, and that's the person receiving the firearms. Now, when it comes time to return them if the owner doesn't have an LTCF is possibly a grey area.

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    Default Re: Quick question on legality of "holding guns" for someone.

    Legal or not, in my opinion itís a very bad idea for one to get involved in a hide the guns from a divorce settlement scheme. If someone I knew asked me to do this I would decline .

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    Default Re: Quick question on legality of "holding guns" for someone.

    It's no different than hiding the Corvette in some buddy's garage.

    IANAL.

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    Default Re: Quick question on legality of "holding guns" for someone.

    Tell him to get a shovel and hide them himself.
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    Default Re: Quick question on legality of "holding guns" for someone.

    Thanks. Kind of what I thought but wanted to be sure before passing. Along info. Cya right? Appreciate the info!
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    Default Re: Quick question on legality of "holding guns" for someone.

    As you may have assumed, the division of marital property can be a tricky and sometimes dirty process. Sometimes agreements can be made, assuming that usually each side has something to lose. Good legal representation is recommended.
    Last edited by father-of-three; March 8th, 2017 at 11:51 AM.

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    Default Re: Quick question on legality of "holding guns" for someone.

    I would imagine it has nothing to due with property value and more to do with some bogus PFA. It seems to be the new standard in PA to file a PFA as soon as you get divorced to screw your husband and set yourself up to get the kids. Once it is filed even if there is no proof, they take your guns just in case you are violent.
    "We shall show mercy, but we shall not ask for it." W.C.

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    Default Re: Quick question on legality of "holding guns" for someone.

    Divorce can be deadly ! Give the guns to a LGS you trust for hold even if you have to pay him a storing fee !

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