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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emptymag View Post
    Keep in mind that you will never, ever find any law that says that you CAN do something that is lawful.

    Doubters will commonly challenge you to "prove something is legal" by asking for proof that it is.
    It doesn't work that way.
    It does in the PRNJ.

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    What is the difference with LTCF and CCW? What can we do in PA with a LTCF that a CCW cant?

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    EDIT: WTF is a CCW?
    Where do you get a CCW?

    With a LTCF:
    1. Open Carry in Philadelphia
    B. Open Carry during a declared State of Emergency
    thirdly, carry loaded pistols in a vehicle.

    that's off the top of my head
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    CCW= Carrying a Concealed Weapon. (permit)

    Second Amendment.
    The only Constitutional right that you need a permit for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpan72 View Post
    As EM has pointed out, there are only laws against something and sometimes exceptions and defences to that law. There is a lot there and there are definitely some places where you can not carry. What I like to do, after getting some advise or opinions, is try to find the relevant law and read it myself. Most of the time the people here can get me to the correct portion of law and I can decide for myself what it means. Sometimes that requires some deeper research.
    It really makes little difference what the law actually says it only matters what some leftist bedwetter judge says it says. Don't try to interpret the law yourself, ask a lawyer what some leftist bedwetter judge says it says instead of putting yourself in jeopardy.
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    Here in FL its CCW as the license allows you to carry other lethal weapons along with firearms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LTCcarrier View Post
    Here in FL its CCW as the license allows you to carry other lethal weapons along with firearms.
    You mean, "Conceal Weapon License"(CWL) for Florida.
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    For all, the name of the license/permit means nothing. If you'll look, Pennsylvania's statutes does not give our LTCF a proper name. Only by the PSP's regulations was it given a name.

    And like I said, the name means nothing. It is the statutes and lawful regulations that determines what privileges are given to the license/permit holder.

    PA could have named our license as "Permit To Blow Bubbles Out Your Ass", but having the UFA to name that PTBBOYA as what allows for carrying concealed, in a vehicle, or on public domain within a City of the First Class or during a State of Emergency.


    Also, "permit" and "license" mean the same thing. It is a permission slip for a regulated privilege, exempting you from the general prohibition thereof. (if you also look, PA statutes also refer to our "license" as a "permit" in a couple passages)
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    If I remember correctly, It was Justice Story that once said, "Where the law is mute there is no law". I think that means. you can't break the law if there is no law against what your doing. Now most governments orgs strive to make everything illegal, then carve out exceptions. Once in a while they miss something but not often.

    Now someone will tell me it is myth or the wrong judge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by knight0334 View Post
    You mean, "Conceal Weapon License"(CWL) for Florida.
    You are correct.

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