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  1. #21
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    Default Re: Wife got pulled over today...

    Quote Originally Posted by PAMedic=F|A= View Post
    Because it is an illegal disclosure of LTCF information that is supposed to be restricted. PSP is supposed to only be disclosing that information to LEO if required for an investigation. Example: I forgot my wallet, cop wants to verify I have a LTCF.

    PSAP dispatchers have absolutely zero reason to have access to LTCF information. A LEO only has a need to have that information as part of an investigation.
    I'm assuming that is why Luzerne County stopped automatically disclosing that information.

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    Default Re: Wife got pulled over today...

    Asking a person if they are carrying, upon knowledge of their possession of an LTCF, is more a rhetorical question, unless the LEO needs to arrest this person.

    LEOs should assume the holder of an LTCF is carrying a firearm, period.

    This is not rocket science.
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    Default Re: Wife got pulled over today...

    Quote Originally Posted by PAMedic=F|A= View Post
    Because it is an illegal disclosure of LTCF information that is supposed to be restricted. PSP is supposed to only be disclosing that information to LEO if required for an investigation. Example: I forgot my wallet, cop wants to verify I have a LTCF.

    PSAP dispatchers have absolutely zero reason to have access to LTCF information. A LEO only has a need to have that information as part of an investigation.
    How would you expect an officer on the street without access to that information obtain it without the PSAP obtaining it for them? Like it or not, logistically, the PSAP is the point at which sensitive data is obtained/transmitted on behalf of law enforcement.

    And the law does not state "part of an investigation", it says "within the scope of their official duties".
    Last edited by MedicCop; March 8th, 2017 at 10:32 AM.

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    Default Re: Wife got pulled over today...

    Guess official duties includes disregarding constitutional provisions.

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    Default Re: Wife got pulled over today...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bang View Post
    Guess official duties includes disregarding constitutional provisions.
    Which provisions are they?

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    Default Re: Wife got pulled over today...

    ....shall not be questioned.

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    Default Re: Wife got pulled over today...

    Quote Originally Posted by MedicCop View Post
    How would you expect an officer on the street without access to that information obtain it without the PSAP obtaining it for them? Like it or not, logistically, the PSAP is the point at which sensitive data is obtained/transmitted on behalf of law enforcement.

    And the law does not state "part of an investigation", it says "within the scope of their official duties".
    Define "scope of their official duties"
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    Default Re: Wife got pulled over today...

    Quote Originally Posted by normanvin View Post
    Define "scope of their official duties"
    Anything and everything.

    Quote from movie Gorky Park, "the KGB decides what is the business of the KGB".

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    Default Re: Wife got pulled over today...

    Quote Originally Posted by john9001 View Post
    Anything and everything.

    Quote from movie Gorky Park, "the KGB decides what is the business of the KGB".
    So he could be on official duty while taking a crap?
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    Default Re: Wife got pulled over today...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bang View Post
    ....shall not be questioned.
    He's not questioning her right just questioning if she was exercising her right.
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