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    What you CAN NOT bring to Red Bull Soapbox Race Philadelphia
    NOTE: Guests and their belongings are subject to search upon entry or re-entry. Please return for any
    additions or amendments.
    - Weapons or illegal substances of any kind
    - Framed or large backpacks or bags
    - Alcohol
    - Glass containers
    - No outside food or beverage
    - Pets
    - Tents
    - No illegal vending is permitted
    - No illegal branding is permitted
    - No illegal merchandise sales are permitted
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    The race appears to be at "The Wall", which according to the results of my Google-fu is a public street area, not private property. It looks to be part of Philadelphia, which is "a city of the first class", so you would need a LTCF, but if it is a public area they can't ban legally carried firearms.

    Again, I'm not a lawyer, I just watch one on TV. Denny Crane!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedKnightt View Post
    The race appears to be at "The Wall", which according to the results of my Google-fu is a public street area, not private property. It looks to be part of Philadelphia, which is "a city of the first class", so you would need a LTCF, but if it is a public area they can't ban legally carried firearms.
    Great point.

    I'd boycot this event, they won't allow you to bring water, because they want you to pay $6 for a little 12oz bottle from one of their sanctioned vendors.

    Also, RedBull will give you a heart attack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LorDiego01 View Post
    Also, RedBull will give you a heart attack.

    I thought it gave you wings...

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    if they get a permit and close the area off for the event, they actually can ban guns at the event.

    just like they can ban bringing in your own water.

    and, yeah, you would also not find me at any such event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LorDiego01 View Post
    Great point.

    Also, RedBull will give you a heart attack.
    [QUOTE=axmdr40;416559]I thought it gave you wings...
    UOTE]


    If you mix it with vodka it gives you wings, heart attack AND keeps you up so you can drink more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleRedToyota View Post
    if they get a permit and close the area off for the event, they actually can ban guns at the event.

    just like they can ban bringing in your own water.

    and, yeah, you would also not find me at any such event.
    Sure they could ban guns but it would'nt be against the law to bring one, would it? It seems to me that if someone did bring a gun(or water) The most they could do is deny entry or, If the person is already at the event, Ask them to leave. Now if the person refused to leave that would be different but could just showing up with a gun (and LTCF) be an arrestable offense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleRedToyota View Post
    if they get a permit and close the area off for the event, they actually can ban guns at the event.
    I do not think this is correct. It is public property (owned by the city/etc)
    As such it is subject to 18Pa.C.S.6120. A contract with a private entity does not override state preemption as far as I can tell.

    Quote Originally Posted by LittleRedToyota View Post
    just like they can ban bringing in your own water.
    There is no preemption statute for carrying water... but there is for carrying firearms

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    and, yeah, you would also not find me at any such event.
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    it wouldn't be the municipality "banning" carrying at the event, though...it would be the event organizers, so i don't see how preemption would apply.

    as someone else pointed out, it wouldn't be illegal, but they could ask you to leave and then charge you with trespassing if you don't.

    i think for the purposes of controlling access, etc., the permitted area effectively becomes private property controlled by the permitee. at least that's how it has worked when i have permitted public sports fields. of course, i never tried to ban guns at any of the events i organized.
    Last edited by LittleRedToyota; September 7th, 2008 at 12:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleRedToyota View Post
    and, yeah, you would also not find me at any such event.
    Dude. Solution is simple.

    Make your own soapbox racer. This is Pennsylvania. There's hills everywhere.


    I would also suggest helmets.

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