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    Default Re: US Appeals Court Stomps on the Constitution...Upholds MD AWB.

    Quote Originally Posted by wa3ra View Post
    Fuck the 4th Circuit, Fuck the 9th Circuit, and Fuck Maryland. That is all.
    Also, Fuck New Jersey. Just because.

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    Default Re: US Appeals Court Stomps on the Constitution...Upholds MD AWB.

    In US v. Miller: "In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use of a "shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length" at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument."

    In Kolbe v. Hogan: "We conclude — contrary to the now vacated decision of our prior panel — that the banned assault weapons and large-capacity magazines are not protected by the Second Amendment."

    So, 2A protects arms that can be used in the military, but it doesn't protect arms that can be used in the military.

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    Default Re: US Appeals Court Stomps on the Constitution...Upholds MD AWB.

    Quote Originally Posted by PocketProtector View Post
    They have NO legislative power, however, these are hard core, demented leftists who think that Coequal branch of Gov means they can legislate from bench.....Its completely warped what they think, but unfortunately, The OMAO, who is absolutely an enemy of the state, had 8 freaking years to pack these courts with radicals and he did just that.

    In addition he poisoned every Federal agency with the same type sick sychophants and we will pay the price of it......Its not hyperbole to say the election of Trump saved the Republic, but it's just temporary if we allow a Leftist ever again take POTUS.....They also must be purged from Congress, they are evil and they have bad intentions for America.
    I agree with you with one exception. The U.S. Constitution does not create three co-equal branches of government. The U.S. Constitution lists the branches in Articles I, II, and III in order of power.

    Article I vests all legislative power in the Congress -- the legislative branch is the preeminent branch. Article II vests the executive power in the president -- the executive branch is secondary in power to the legislative power. Article III provides for the judiciary -- the weakest branch of government under originalist intent.

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    Default Re: US Appeals Court Stomps on the Constitution...Upholds MD AWB.

    Article III (Article 3 - Judicial)
    Section 1
    The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services, a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.

    Judges of the supreme and inferior courts hold their offices during good behavior. Ignoring the U.S. Constitution is not good behavior.

    The judges who rendered this asinine decision should be debenched by the U.S. Congress. Period.

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    Default Re: US Appeals Court Stomps on the Constitution...Upholds MD AWB.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spirit of 76 View Post
    The judges who rendered this asinine decision should be debenched by the U.S. Congress. Period.
    you win some internets today.

    Edit: see sig.
    "A judge who likes every outcome he reaches is very likely a bad judge..."

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    Default Re: US Appeals Court Stomps on the Constitution...Upholds MD AWB.

    Quote Originally Posted by Berks_Iraq_Vet View Post
    Constitutional rights do not come from the government.......These so called Judges are political hacks. No standing. As relevant as an illegal order. The courts have been corrupted. Government is corrupted.
    Well said!

    The Bill of Rights is a recognition of inherent, inalienable, indefeasible rights which pre-date government.

    News quote: "Put simply, we have no power to extend Second Amendment protections to weapons of war," Judge Robert King wrote for the court, adding that the Supreme Court's decision in District of Columbia v. Heller explicitly excluded such coverage.

    Dunce! You have no power to infringe upon the inherent, inalienable right of the people to keep and bear arms that the Second Amendment recognizes and enshrines in the U.S. Constitution. The prohibition -- as in the entire Bill of Rights -- is not on the people; it is on the government.

    You state that you do not as a court have the "power to extend Second Amendment protections to weapons of war."

    That is a straw man argument, for while that statement may be true, it is irrelevant because the court does not have the power to infringe (in fact the U.S. Constitution prohibits any such infringement) on the inherent right of the people to keep and bear arms in the first place.

    Article III (Article 3 - Judicial)
    Section 1
    The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services, a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.

    The judges, both of the supreme and inferior courts, shall hold their offices during good behavior. Refusing to follow the U.S. Constitution is not good behavior.

    The U.S. Congress should debench all of the judges who rendered such an asinine decision. Period.

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    Default Re: US Appeals Court Stomps on the Constitution...Upholds MD AWB.

    In the perspective of judge king, the second amendment has no relevance being it does not protect weapons of war. Vast majority of firearms in private hands are or were weapons of war.

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    Default Re: US Appeals Court Stomps on the Constitution...Upholds MD AWB.

    Quote Originally Posted by c45man View Post
    In the perspective of judge king, the second amendment has no relevance being it does not protect weapons of war. Vast majority of firearms in private hands are or were weapons of war.
    Very true. Most firearm development started as a more efficient way to kill our fellow man on a battlefield.
    "A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself"

    "He created the game, played the game, and lost the game.... All under his own terms, by his own doing." JW34

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    Default Re: US Appeals Court Stomps on the Constitution...Upholds MD AWB.

    Trump overturned it---can he do that?

    http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...itia-purposes/
    "I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery." Thomas Jefferson

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    Default Re: US Appeals Court Stomps on the Constitution...Upholds MD AWB.

    Quote Originally Posted by mikelets456 View Post
    Trump overturned it---can he do that?

    http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...itia-purposes/
    I have some concerns about that EO.
    First, “Section 3(f) 'Militia Rifles' shall mean the firearms designated in Section 4 that are made in America and suitable for use in self-defense, community defense, defense of States and defense of the Nation." So, AK47s or SKS or HK91s or anything not made in the US aren't usable in self defense, community defense, et al?
    Second, "Section 4(a) The AR-15 and similar semi-automatic rifles, to include flash suppressors and bayonet lugs, magazines of up to thirty round capacities, M-7 bayonets, and ammunition in 5.56 NATO or .223 Remington, in all quantities." Frankly, I'd rather not have the US government telling me that I can't have 40 round or 100 round magazines or .300 Blackout or .308 WIN in my AR.

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