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  1. #61
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    Default Re: PGH Tactical Firearms Sudden Closing

    I had heard about the cash and carry, but did not know he actually had a rack labeled as such.

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    Default Re: PGH Tactical Firearms Sudden Closing

    Quote Originally Posted by ViperHummel View Post
    I had heard about the cash and carry, but did not know he actually had a rack labeled as such.
    When I was an FFL, we could sell our personal (non-BBooked) long guns the same way a non-FFL holder could. Maybe that is what was going on?
    All of my guns are lubed with BACON GREASE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nfafan View Post
    When I was an FFL, we could sell our personal (non-BBooked) long guns the same way a non-FFL holder could. Maybe that is what was going on?
    Correct me if I'm wrong:

    An FFL is a licensee, permitted by that license to facilitate transfers for others. Selling your own gun, not as a business, would not require that.

    Some actually in the business of selling firearms is required to do a 4473 on *all* sales, using their FFL to do so.

    Or am I missing something?

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    Default Re: PGH Tactical Firearms Sudden Closing

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt.K View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong:

    An FFL is a licensee, permitted by that license to facilitate transfers for others. Selling your own gun, not as a business, would not require that.

    Some actually in the business of selling firearms is required to do a 4473 on *all* sales, using their FFL to do so.

    Or am I missing something?
    I am curious about this as well . A local started a small shop 3 years ago and he told me that he had to list all his personal firearms he had already owned before he got his ffl ? (listed in a book of some sort ) ?? If this is true your collection of personal gun become part of the business ?

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    Default Re: PGH Tactical Firearms Sudden Closing

    Quote Originally Posted by nfafan View Post
    The "Striker 12" crap - the originals in the young 80s were just revolving shotguns until ATF got a bug and decided to make them all NFA overnight. You scrambled to get them "amnesty" registered as NFA to legally keep them. Maybe his was not registered... so even if he thought he'd get a pass as a CL3 dealer - no go.

    Back when an FFL was easy to get - as a lawful right for the law-abiding to try to be in the gun biz - folks were tacking on a CL to get in on the party. Do like 3 NFA transfers a year to show your actively in the biz... we simply transfer otherwise unobtainable dealer samples amongst each other and snag a few $100.00 MACs as keepers along the way.

    Eventually get outta the biz- keep them all until you die. No other way to get and keep a genuine factory MP5 or factory Beretta Modelo21.
    Might have worked that way then, now the ffl goes so does the post 86.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57springer View Post
    I am curious about this as well . A local started a small shop 3 years ago and he told me that he had to list all his personal firearms he had already owned before he got his ffl ? (listed in a book of some sort ) ?? If this is true your collection of personal gun become part of the business ?
    No, that would be the reason for separating them out.

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    Default Re: PGH Tactical Firearms Sudden Closing

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunsnwater View Post
    Might have worked that way then, now the ffl goes so does the post 86.
    True that. Which is why "pre-86" dealer samples are getting almost as expensive as "transferables" and registered DEWATs; cant play the keeper games with post-86's.
    All of my guns are lubed with BACON GREASE.

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