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    Default USCCA hangs member out to dry?

    A USCCA member, Kayla Giles, shot her estranged husband in a LA Walmart parking lot during a custody transfer. USCCA paid $50k towards her defense and then cut her off. During her trial, her lawyer sued USCCA for the benefits that were due her. She was convicted of 2nd degree murder.

    This isn't a good look for USCCA.


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    What amounts to an insurance company refusing to fully pay a claim? Unheard of.

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    I didn't watch the video. Did they cut her off because of an overwhelming amount of evidence pointing towards her being guilty?

    Don't most of these carry insurances have a clause that the facts of the case can't point towards guilt? (Kind of a catch 22 there.....)

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    Also, look at our sociopolitical climate.

    The amount people who actually believe in this to save their ass is absurd.
    It's a right wing money drain.
    Last edited by icp4life162005; February 5th, 2022 at 10:37 AM.

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    I'm going to lend credence to Scruff's statement that she was CONVICTED of second degree murder. USCCA provides insurance for when we legally defend ourselves and get prosecuted for it, not when we commit crimes. Look elsewhere for that kind of coverage but offhand, I don't know of anybody who offers it.
    Gender confusion is a mental illness

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter View Post
    I'm going to lend credence to Scruff's statement that she was CONVICTED of second degree murder. USCCA provides insurance for when we legally defend ourselves and get prosecuted for it, not when we commit crimes. Look elsewhere for that kind of coverage but offhand, I don't know of anybody who offers it.
    Every time I look into gun-owner "insurance" the supplier's agreement is so full of weasel-language, caveats and limitations that I can't imagine it actually working out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KCJones View Post
    Every time I look into gun-owner "insurance" the supplier's agreement is so full of weasel-language, caveats and limitations that I can't imagine it actually working out.
    I went with USCCA after SigForLife reported how * quick and effective they are.
    Gender confusion is a mental illness

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    I knew someone who was charged with a firearms violation. And he knew all along he was in violation.
    He was an NRA member and had their insurance and legal representation thing. Then he was very pissed off when the NRA wouldn't bail him out of his fines and lawyer fees, and get his gun back for him.
    DUUUHH......
    He was just lucky to get his car back.
    Some people think they have a get-out-of-jail-free card, and can do whatever they want with no consequences, legal or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter View Post
    I'm going to lend credence to Scruff's statement that she was CONVICTED of second degree murder. USCCA provides insurance for when we legally defend ourselves and get prosecuted for it, not when we commit crimes. Look elsewhere for that kind of coverage but offhand, I don't know of anybody who offers it.
    But was she convicted because of improper/under representation?? No idea, just asking the question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jthrelf View Post
    But was she convicted because of improper/under representation?? No idea, just asking the question.
    Seeing as Johnny Cohchran is dead, probably under-represented.
    Gender confusion is a mental illness

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