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http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/loca...95035183-story

91-year-old man fights back, shooting suspected armed robber in neck

EASTPOINTE, Mich. (WJBK) - An elderly shopper pulls out his gun and fires in a Rite-Aid parking lot.

The 91-year-old told police he thought he was about to be robbed by a man who followed him from his car toward the store. That shopper is 91-years old and he says he gave that man a warning -- before he shot him. Now the suspected robber is in custody.

Likely just another morning for the elderly Eastpointe man who stopped by this Rite-Aid store at Gratiot and Nine Mile Monday.

"He was trying to get into the store when he was approached by the suspect," said Deputy Chief Eric Keiser, Eastpointe police.

Eastpointe police say the 91-year-old man felt uneasy as the suspect began acting erratically. That's when police say the elderly man told the 30-year-old suspect -- who pointed some sort of weapon at him -- that he had a license to carry.

"The person who fired the shots had a CPL and was lawfully carrying a handgun," said Keiser. "He said he defended himself when he was attacked."

Firing one shot and hitting the suspect in the neck, police say the suspect ran off. Eastpointe police say the wounded suspect ran toward this parking lot across the street and with the help of dozens of witnesses -- police were able to quickly track him down.

Eastpointe police say that suspect is still in the hospital and has not been cooperative with police.

"The person who fired the shots is not under arrest and he's cooperating with the investigation," Keiser said.

Police say no weapon was recovered -- except for the elderly man's gun. As that suspect is likely to be arraigned Tuesday. Right now, police say it appears that 91-year-old man acted in self-defense.

"The investigation is ongoing - and we're consulting with the Macomb County Prosecutor's Office to make sure that he did act in self-defense and was legal in what he did."

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In this story, a mother came home and found an intruder in her house.



Case of mom fatally shooting intruder sparks debate

http://www.kgw.com/news/local/portla...uder/256234379

PORTLAND, Ore. -- A mother who returned to her Portland home with her two children early Sunday morning shot and killed an intruder who was inside.

Tara-Alexis Ford, 33, found a stranger in one of her children's bedrooms inside her home in the 4100 block of Southeast 118th Place at about 1:45 a.m. Armed with a handgun, she shot and killed the man, who has been identified as David Daniel McCrary, 59, from Gresham.

The Oregon State Medical Examiner determined that McCrary died of a single gunshot wound.

Detectives don't know why McCrary, who has no significant criminal history, broke into Ford's home. There is no connection between Ford and McCrary, and he is not from the neighborhood. A recent report indicates that McCrary may have dealt with mental health issues.

According to detectives, McCrary broke into Ford's home through a back window. He was found by Ford in the bedroom of her 10-year-old daughter, where the shooting happened. Ford's daughter and her 5-year-old son were in a different bedroom at the time.

Neighbors who spoke with KGW say they think Ford did the right thing.

“I would be scared. I would be scared,” said neighbor Linda Ternes-Kent. “But she had to do what she had to do. I would have done the same thing.”

Ford remains cooperative with investigators and was not arrested. The investigation, which is ongoing, will determine whether she acted in self defense and if she'll face charges.

Prosecutors say the investigation is routine, and it takes time.

Local defense attorney Edward Kroll says, given how the laws are written in Oregon, he’d be shocked if Ford was charged because a homeowner has the right to defend themselves in most cases.

In other words, he says, if the homeowner reasonably believes an intruder is in their house to commit a crime, they can use deadly force to protect themselves.

He says exceptions come into play when the intruder is a known to the homeowner and, perhaps, has been invited over before.

“It's like Kramer in ‘Seinfeld’. That's a good example,” said Kroll. "When Kramer slides into Jerry’s apartment, he's not there to commit a crime. He's welcome there. It's a normal thing. So jerry couldn't pull out a gun and shoot him under Oregon's laws.”
For a more detailed explanation, Kroll points to ORS 161.219.

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Here's one from last night.

Foley business, homeowner shoots, kills intruder

http://www.fox10tv.com/story/3464248...kills-intruder

oto: FOX10 News
FOLEY, AL (WALA) -
A home, business invasion that police say may have intended to be a robbery has left a homeowner shaken up and the intruder dead.

Not one or two, but three doors were busted through to get to a bedroom located on the same property as Elite Marine in Foley. Foley police are calling the crime a home, businesses invasion, and they say the man responsible was 20-year-old Sedrick Jemison.

Jason Harrison is a manager at Big Fish Thrift Store and says he was shocked to see the news pop up on his phone.

“With how everything is starting to grow around here we are noticing that we’re having to keep up with our surroundings. But it was very sad to know that a young man was involved," Harrison said.

Police say Jemison broke into the Elite Marine around eight last night, but they don’t know why. They say they do know that a man that was leasing the room was asleep when he heard glass shatter, and noise getting closer to his bedroom. Police say that’s when two shots were fired in defense, and Jemison was found dead.

“It’s sad when you have to make that choice on defending yourself or taking the life of somebody but in this day in age, desperate times are upon us," Harrison said.

This morning investigators removed crime scene tape as they continued to canvas the area for more evidence. Other area business owners supporting the man who acted in self-defense.

“The fact is, in real time, when you’re reacting it’s exactly that, it’s a reaction. If you wake me up out of a dead sleep in my home the reactions are going to be similar. It’s a fight or flight thing. It’s a self-defense mechanism; when you see someone threatened you’ll see the same result." Matt Eck owner of Stax said.

Police say they have been following leads all day, looking for a possible accomplice to last night's crime. They say so far no lead has led to an official arrest so they're urging you to call them if you have any helpful information.

All content © 2017, WALA; Mobile, AL. (A Meredith Corporation Station). All Rights Reserved.

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A 19 year old from Oklahoma used his AR15 to fight off home intruders. Kills 3 out of 3.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/27...-burglars.html

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This may be a case of if there had not been a concealed carrier present, more people may have been shot scenario. (at least according to police)

http://www.cbs8.com/story/35341425/h...-employee-cops

Hero Sports Bar Customer Fatally Shoots Gunman Who'd Just Killed Employee: Cops

A scene of both tragedy and heroism unfolded in Texas on Wednesday when cops say a man walked into a sports bar and fatally shot an employee.

But before the suspect could get away, an armed patron of Arlington's Zona Caliente Sports Bar reportedly drew his own weapon and opened fire on the gunman, killing him.

Read: Dallas Paramedic Shooting Began as Dispute Between Neighbors, Cops Say

Cops did not clarify whether a third person who was also injured was a customer or employee of the bar. The person was reportedly injured by shattered glass.

What cops have said, however, is that the quick draw customer may have saved lives.

"[He] prevented further loss of life," a spokesman for the Arlington Police Department told Dallas News.

Police on Thursday reportedly identified the suspect as 48-year-old James Jones of Grand Prairie.

The customer, who cops say had a licensed to carry a concealed weapon, had been dining with his wife when he saw the initial shooting.

In a statement, Arlington police said: "This customer was armed with a handgun and engaged the shooter by firing his weapon towards the suspect, striking him. The suspect was pronounced deceased at the scene. It is too early to determine a motive or whether the suspect knew the employee."

Witnesses reportedly said the suspect was engaged in a verbal dispute with the employee prior to the shooting.

Police say the investigation is ongoing, but on Thursday morning, the slain employee was identified as Cesar Perez.

Read: Army Veteran Tied Service Dog to Tree, Shot It 5 Times on Camera: Cops

In a post to his Facebook, one of a slew of comments memorializing the 37-year-old, a woman identifying herself as Perez's sister wrote:

"Unfortunately my brother did pass away today, I still don't believe it myself. I received comments from co-workers saying he did a brave thing. As of now, detectives are still working at the scene trying to puzzle everything together.

"I will post funeral details when I get the chance. It's a blessing to see all these comments and posts about Cesar. Please keep my family in prayers as we're going through this difficult trial."

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You don't always have to pull the trigger to make a difference.


Concealed carrier holds stabbing suspect until police arrive

http://katv.com/news/local/concealed...-police-arrive

AUSTIN, Ark. (KATV) - Austin police are crediting a concealed carry holder for helping save a man who was being stabbed by his brother.
Monday night police were dispatched to a stabbing at 10 Marie Lane, where they found 47-year-old Darren Terry with three lacerations. He was taken to the hospital for treatment.
Darren's brother, 30-year-old Chris Terry, was taken into custody for first-degree domestic battery in the case and is being held at the Lonoke County jail on a $10,000 bond.

Upon further investigation, authorities learned a Good Samaritan, identified as Lt. Brandon Teel, witnessed the incident and reported the crime to police.
When he realized the severity of the fight, police say Teel took out his concealed weapon, for which he has a valid permit, and held the suspect until Austin officers were able to take him into custody.

Teel, 35, of Ward, is an active-duty United States Air Force Reserves 189th Airlift Wing and is stationed at the Little Rock Air Force base.

The Austin police chief says Teel's actions saved a life.
"Lt. Teel is a perfect example of a responsible concealed carry permit holder," said Chief Bill Duerson. "He acted heroically in the face of extreme danger and avoided a tragedy."

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From last Saturday. A couple of people who thought they deserved the money of someone working to pay the bills. Things did not work out for them.
Domino's Pizza driver who shot teen robbery suspect in Mesquite had Arizona gun permit

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crim...ona-gun-permit

The Domino's Pizza driver who shot and killed a 16-year-old robbery suspect Saturday night in Mesquite has a valid concealed weapons permit from Arizona, police said.
Authorities originally said the driver, whose name hasn't been released, did not have a handgun license.

Lt. Brian Parrish, a Mesquite police spokesman, said the officer who made the initial report wrote that the driver had drawn a concealed-carry pistol. Police searched the driver's name to see if he had a Texas concealed carry permit and learned he did not. But an investigator determined that the driver does have a permit from Arizona, which is also valid in Texas, Parrish said.

"He's not going to catch any charges regarding unlawful carrying of weapon," Parrish said.
The facts and evidence that police have reviewed so far indicate that the driver was acting in self-defense, Parrish said. A grand jury will look at the case and determine whether the driver will face criminal charges.

"We're not the end-all, be-all when it comes to making this decision -- the grand jury is," Parrish said. "So we send it to the grand jury, and that group of independent people come to their own conclusion."
The driver killed 16-year-old Wayne Osborne, a student at John Horn High School in Mesquite.

The shooting happened about 11:20 p.m. Saturday in the 1400 block of Springwood Drive near the Mesquite Metropolitan Airport. The driver told police that he went up to the door to deliver a pizza and encountered two male robbers. One of the robbers pointed a pistol at the head of the driver, and when the driver didn't react as expected, the robber lowered the gun and fired slightly off to the driver's side, Parrish said.

"When this happened, it became clear to the driver that this was a robbery," the police spokesman said.

The driver shot back three times and hit the suspect who had fired earlier, according to police. The two robbery suspects ran out the backdoor of the vacant house. Wayne collapsed in an alley, Parrish said.

The second suspect, who has not been named, is also a 16-year-old. He was detained on an aggravated robbery charge.
Domino's Pizza has suspended the driver as the investigation continues. A spokeswoman for the company didn't return a phone call Monday seeking comment.
Mesquite resident Joyce Coologhan said she's a friend of the driver, whom she declined to name. She wrote on social media that the driver had an out-of-state gun license hours before that information was published in a news report.

She described him as "a real nice guy" and an Air Force veteran who took a job as a Domino's driver to supplement his disability benefits.
"This was the job to help him get back on his feet a little bit, to pay his bills," she said.

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This guy had to go to trial for defending himself. Some interesting points in this article.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/c...ife/101464666/

Jury acquits man in fatal shooting of unarmed man in front of Milwaukee police station

After more than 300,000 Wisconsin residents obtained permits to carry concealed firearms since 2011, it was only a matter of time before some started using the weapons in ways gun rights advocates said would allow citizens to protect themselves.

One of them, 65-year-old Randall Drescher of Milwaukee, was found not guilty Tuesday in the fatal shooting of an unarmed stranger outside a police station last summer after Drescher said he feared an aggressive younger man meant him serious harm.

Drescher was charged with first-degree reckless homicide because prosecutors said it was unreasonable to use deadly force against Reed E. Carlsen, who had not threatened Drescher but had hit him with a rubber traffic cone.

"It's really not self-defense," Assistant District Attorney Paul Tiffin told jurors in his closing argument. "In some ways, he executed him."

But the jury, which included at least one concealed weapon permit holder, clearly disagreed, reaching a verdict in about 20 minutes.

Defense attorney Christian Thomas had stressed to jurors that under Wisconsin law, Drescher had no duty to retreat from an irrational "maniac" who had been escalating the encounter. "Was the threat real enough? You all know it was."

Drescher had testified that Carlsen, 42, of West Allis, had approached him and a friend as they sat in the friend's van waiting to meet someone selling a shotgun over the internet. Out of nowhere, Drescher testified, Carlsen accused them of staring at him or being undercover police in a profane, angry and belligerent way.

RELATED:Man charged in fatal shooting outside police station

After finally walking away, Carlsen grabbed a large rubber traffic cone, and rammed it through the open passenger window of the van, hitting Drescher and knocking a phone out of his friend's hands as he was dialing 911.

The men testified they sat stunned and fearful until Carlsen walked a good distance away before Drescher got out to put the cone back in place in front of the District 6 station on the south side. That's when he saw Carlsen turn around and come at him.

Drescher testified he has bad knees and can't run and felt he didn't have enough time to get back to the van or into the station. Instead, he assumed "a good, solid stance," and glared at Carlsen but got no reaction.

That's when Drescher drew his .40-caliber Sig Sauer pistol and pointed it at Carlsen, assuming he would turn and retreat. Instead, Drescher said, Carlsen only laughed and kept coming.

"I was scared to death," Drescher said, because he feared Carlsen would "beat me up, put me in a coma, maybe kill me." When Carlsen got within just a few feet, Drescher fired.

"I gave him as much chance I could," he said. "When all else failed, I had to shoot the guy."

Right after, Drescher put his gun in the van and went to the District 6 station to say he'd shot someone, and was arrested.

He and his friend were the key witnesses; there was no surveillance video from the police station that might have shown the encounter.

Carlsen died from a shot to the heart and one to his scrotum. A third shot grazed his buttocks.

Earlier, retired Milwaukee police lieutenant Conrad Zvarra testified that an unarmed aggressor can often overpower and harm even an armed person, sometimes with the person's own weapon.

Zvarra said someone holding a gun becomes more vulnerable by not shooting, because it leaves the person with only one hand to ward off the attacker, and the person must concentrate on not letting the attacker get the weapon.

In his closing argument, Tiffin said that was like saying anyone pointing a gun gets an automatic excuse to use it because the other person might disarm the gun holder and use the weapon against the person.

"The only reason a gun is in the scenario is because the defendant introduced one," Tiffin said.

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Gun owner turns tables on gas station robber, won’t face charges

https://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/0...-face-charges/

A motorist at a gas station in Elmwood Park, Illinois, who shot and killed a potential robber who approached his vehicle last month, will not face charges because he acted in self-defense, police say.

According to authorities, Ronald Morales, 43, initially made eye contact with the motorist from inside the convenience store as the man pumped gas. After pumping gas, the motorist climbed back into his vehicle when surveillance video shows Morales approaching the man’s vehicle on the passenger side.

Morales pulled out a firearm and after opening and closing the passenger-side door, he thrust his gun inside the window of the car as he spoke to the man.

Video of the incident shows the motorist, who told police he feared for his life, quickly exiting the vehicle with his own gun as he stood up and began firing at Morales. The two exchanged gunfire for several seconds before Morales fled the scene on foot and the driver of the vehicle sped off.

Authorities said Morales suffered multiple bullet wounds and died from his injuries and that no charges will be filed in the incident.

Police said that the gas station’s “state-of-the-art” surveillance system was crucial in their determination not to press any charges, because, they said, the video footage obtained clearly shows the driver was acting in self-defense and corroborates the driver’s story and eyewitness accounts.

In 2013, Illinois became the 50th and final state to implement a firearm concealed carry law after state lawmakers voted to override the governor’s veto on the Firearm Concealed Carry Act. Residents of Illinois may carry a concealed weapon after obtaining an Illinois concealed carry license.

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Since they both involve Illinois, I am posting 2 today.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...-be-carjacker/

Chicago: Concealed Permit Holder Shoots Would-Be Carjacker

A concealed carry permit holder shot an alleged carjacker on gun-controlled Chicago’s Southwest side on Wednesday morning.
The incident occurred around 11:30 a.m. as the permit holder was “standing outside his vehicle in the 5300 block of South Pulaski Road.”

According to the Chicago Tribune, police said two men approached the permit holder and demanded his keys, but he pulled his gun and opened fire instead, shooting one of the two suspects in the groin area.

The wounded suspect, an unidentified 25-year-old male, “was taken to Advocate Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn” and is listed in good condition.

Although the second suspect fled when the would-be victim opened fire, he was caught a short time later. Both suspects are expected to face charges.

The police state that a weapon was recovered at the scene.

On March 10, 2017, Breitbart News reported that concealed carry rose nearly 50 percent in Chicago in 2016, compared to 2015. Moreover, the number of Chicagoans seeking Firearm Owners Identification (FOID) cards skyrocketed. FOID possession does not allow residents to carry a gun on their person, but it makes it legal for them to have a gun in their home or business for self-defense.

DNA Info reports that 38,712 Chicago residents received a FOID card in 2016, compared to 23,725 in 2015. Therefore, the “state [issued] 63 percent more permits to Chicagoans to own a gun in 2016 than in 2015.”

AWR Hawkins is the Second Amendment columnist for Breitbart News and host of Bullets with AWR Hawkins, a Breitbart News podcast. He is also the political analyst for Armed American Radio. Follow him on Twitter: @AWRHawkins. Reach him directly at awrhawkins@breitbart.com.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...-be-carjacker/