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Authorities: Man killed while trying to break into Henderson home
By Kasey Cunningham, WRAL reporterHenderson, N.C.
Posted 10:16 p.m. Monday
Updated 5:25 a.m. yesterday

— A man trying to break into a Henderson home was shot and killed early Monday, police said.

Police responded to a reported shooting at 232 Crozier St. at about 2 a.m. and found a man dead outside a window to the home. A preliminary investigation determined that the dead man, whose name hasn't been released, was trying to break in when someone inside the home shot him, police said.

The shooting remains under investigation, but no charges have been filed.

Neighbors said they weren’t sure what could have made the home a target for a burglary other an empty television box sitting outside.

"I was just shocked," said one woman who asked not to be identified. "I came out when I saw all the police. That’s when I realized someone was lying on the ground dead."

The woman said she was told three people were trying to break into the house.

"She said they were trying to kick in the back door. She said they couldn’t get in the back door, and they decided try to come around the front," the woman said. "Her boyfriend shot through the glass, through the bedroom window, and it hit one of the boys."

The woman said she doesn't think anyone inside the home should face criminal charges.

"I guess he was trying to protect his family because it’s her and the two little twin boys in the house," she said.

Anyone with information on the shooting or breaking and entering is asked to call the Henderson Police Department at 252-438-4141.

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https://www.timesrecordnews.com/stor...ed/2280336001/

Wichita Falls PD: Liquor store owner gets in shootout with gang members invading his home

Dequavious Eugene Sanderson (Photo: Courtesy Wichita County Jail)

A Wichita Falls man and his wife closed the liquor store they have owned 25 years like they normally do at 9 p.m. and drove home, only to immediately be faced with armed gang members invading their home through the garage, according to court documents.
The husband exchanged gunfire with two masked men, and his wife was shot in the leg, according to court records. The ensuing police investigation involved DNA from a shoe one suspect lost in the garage.
A Wichita County grand jury handed down an indictment against Dequavious Eugene Sanderson last week in connection with the home invasion, court records showed.

The 23-year-old Wichita Falls man was indicted on one count of burglary of a habitation with the intent to commit aggravated assault and/or attempted aggravated robbery, according to court documents filed Sept. 5.
If convicted of the first degree felony, Sanderson faces up to life in prison.

He remained in Wichita County Jail Tuesday on a $50,000 bond for the charge, online jail records showed.
He was also being held on ten other charges possibly connected to an alleged crime spree, according to court documents and jail records. His total bond is approximately $750,000.
A search of court records did not turn up charges as of yet against Sanderson's alleged accomplice in connection with this home invasion.

However, the man is being held in Wichita County Jail on $2 million in bonds in connection with a Dec. 2 aggravated robbery and a Nov. 27 burglary of a habitation with the intention to commit another felony.
What do police say happened?

An affidavit for arrest warrant gave this account of the incident at the store owners' home: A Wichita Falls police sergeant contacted an officer Feb. 10, 2018, about an aggravated robbery in the 1500 block of Sweetbriar.
The sergeant said someone had been injured by gunfire and transported to United Regional Health Care System. He asked the officer to respond.

The officer arrived and spoke with a husband and wife who own a liquor store in the 300 block of Seventh Street.
The wife appeared to have a gunshot wound in her left leg in the ankle/shin area.
The couple told the officer that they drove home that night in their truck after closing their store. The wife was the front seat passenger while the husband drove.

He parked the truck in the driveway of their home outside the garage.
The husband didn't see anyone follow them home, but when they got there, he saw a car with its headlights on parked down the street from their house.

The husband saw the car drive in their direction "fast" so he walked in to try get the door open and waited for his wife.
Just as his wife walked inside the garage, two masked men walked in behind her, the husband told police.
"Get down, get down," the gun wielding intruders yelled.
The husband told police he fired his gun at them, and they fired back.

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Not a self defense story, but a pertinent read that fits the purpose of the thread.

https://www.nationalreview.com/magaz...nd-themselves/

Do Guns Help People Defend Themselves?
Robert VerBruggenSeptember 12, 2019 12:01 PM

(Roy Scott/Getty Images)
Yes, probably hundreds of thousands of times each year
One day at 5:30 a.m., a man with a machete hacked at two doors, leaving a trail of broken glass, to force his way into a DeKalb County, Ga., home. What he planned to accomplish once inside, though, we’ll never know: The homeowner had a gun, confronted the intruder, and fired two shots, killing him.

This is what’s known as a defensive gun use, or DGU. It is abundantly clear that such things happen regularly in this country, which should not surprise us: We have 323 million people, at least as many guns, and plenty of crime, so periodically a person will use a gun to stop a crime. The National Rifle Association’s “Armed Citizen” report, from which this case is drawn, compiles several incidents each week from local news stories.

But exactly how many times do things like this happen each year? Often enough to provide a big potential upside to buying a gun? Often enough that we should worry about various proposed gun-control measures’ reducing the number?

It turns out that it’s a lot harder to count DGUs than it is to count, say, murders, each of which leaves a dead body and, almost without fail, attracts attention from the authorities. And thus the issue has been hotly disputed among researchers for decades.

Perhaps the simplest approach is to conduct a survey asking people whether they’ve used a gun defensively within some preceding time period. Most famously, a survey conducted in 1993 by Gary Kleck and Marc Gertz estimated that more than 1 percent of American adults had used a gun defensively in the past year. This implied something on the order of 2.2 to 2.5 million defensive gun uses annually. Several other surveys conducted around the same time suggest roughly the same thing (including one effort by the Centers for Disease Control that went unpublicized until Kleck stumbled upon the data in 2018, two decades after the questions had been asked).

Especially noteworthy is that while some DGUs can be quite dramatic — the FBI reports that of the 50 “active shooter” incidents in 2016 and 2017, armed civilians stopped four and intervened unsuccessfully in two more (one civilian was wounded, the other scared the attacker off to a new location, where he continued shooting) — most don’t involve firing the gun. Producing a weapon is usually enough to scare off your run-of-the-mill lowlife.

But these are old studies, and it’s not obvious what a survey like this would say today. Crime has fallen drastically since the 1990s, and gun ownership has dipped by some measures as well. However, gun owners today are more likely to own handguns instead of rifles and shotguns, and also far more likely to have concealed-carry permits, thanks to the spread of liberal “shall issue” laws. (In a small but growing number of states, a permit isn’t even required.) Some call it “Gun Culture 2.0”: less focus on hunting, more on self-defense and carrying in public.

And there are serious objections to these surveys aside from their age, the largest of which is that when you’re trying to estimate a very low proportion — which, by all accounts, the share of Americans who use a gun in self-defense each year is — the potential for overestimation is much higher than that for underestimation. For example, if the true number is 0.5 percent, underestimation can result from wrong answers by just 0.5 percent of the respondents, while overestimation can result from wrong answers by 99.5 percent. There are reasons that both groups might answer incorrectly, but the fact that one group is so much bigger than the other makes these risks lopsided.

Further, as the RAND Corporation pointed out in a recent review of the gun-violence literature, if these survey results are accurate, a lot of gunshot injuries — an implausibly high number, arguably — are not resulting in deaths or hospital visits: The Kleck and Gertz estimates “suggest that, while using a firearm for self-defense, U.S. residents likely injured or killed an opponent 207,000 times per year, but only about 100,000 people die or are treated for gunshot injuries in hospitals each year, most of whom either shot themselves or were victims of criminal assaults.”

Kleck has defended his work in great detail for a quarter of a century now, but 2 million is probably too high. Is there a more accurate method?

Some anti-gun researchers have relied instead on the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS). As the name suggests, this survey asks Americans about their experiences with crime; it also asks some victims what, if anything, they did to resist. Research with this survey produces drastically lower results: Maybe 100,000 DGUs a year, even fewer in some studies.

But if Kleck-style surveys have a high risk of overstating DGUs, the NCVS obviously produces an underestimate. It doesn’t ask all of the respondents whether they defended themselves against a crime; in order to get to that question, folks have to report (in the course of answering “screener” questions) that they were the victim of crimes or attempted crimes involving personal contact. “Among the potentially excluded respondents,” RAND notes, “are those reporting incidents involving other crimes (e.g., trespassing, commercial crimes), victims of crimes in the included categories . . . who did not report those crimes earlier in the interview, and those reporting incidents that were not completed crimes (e.g., suspected crimes).” On top of that, respondents are simply asked what they did in response to the crime; they are not asked specifically about gun use.

It seems fair to treat the NCVS estimates as a floor and Kleck’s as a ceiling, which gives us a range of about 100,000 to 2 million DGUs per year. With such a wide range, unfortunately, we can’t even say whether defensive gun uses outnumber criminal ones, which the NCVS estimates at around 500,000 per year these days, down from two to three times that in the early to mid 1990s, when Kleck’s surveys took place.

And, of course, none of this should minimize the fact that guns are used quite often as a tool for evil. When it comes to lethal uses of guns, for instance, the criminal ones clearly outnumber the defensive ones: For 2017, the FBI records 299 justifiable firearm homicides by civilians vs. 10,982 murders and non-negligent manslaughters with guns. The former number is underestimated for a variety of technical reasons, but that’s an enormous gap, and there are tens of thousands of gun suicides each year as well on the “con” side of the balance sheet.

So what should gun owners, and those thinking about joining us, make of all this? However imprecise the numbers may be, we can certainly dismiss claims that guns are practically never useful for self-defense. Guns are used in self-defense probably hundreds of thousands of times per year.

Beyond the aggregate data, we must look to our individual circumstances: the crime rates in the neighborhoods we live in, whether we have to travel at night in dangerous areas, whether we’ve been threatened, our mental health, our criminal history and anger issues, our shooting abilities and training, and so on. All else equal, the greater the threats we face, the less our likelihood of misusing a gun ourselves, and the greater our ability to deal with a threat effectively, the more likely it is that the benefits of gun ownership will outweigh the risks. Some of us will quite rationally decide that we’re safer with a gun than without — however infuriating this may be to those who would minimize the value of bearing arms.

This article appears as “Armed Citizen” in the September 30, 2019, print edition of National Review.

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https://www.wral.com/cumberland-home...glar/18629324/

Cumberland homeowner shoots, kills suspected burglar
Fayetteville, N.C.
Posted 12:38 p.m. today

— A Cumberland County homeowner shot and killed a suspected burglar Wednesday night, authorities said.

Deputies went to 507 Snow Hill Road at about 8:30 p.m. in response to a reported burglary. The homeowner, 46-year-old Tony Libson, told deputies two masked individuals broke into his home and shot him, but he was able to return fire.

Deputies found Henry Miller, 23, dead inside the home. The second intruder is believed to have fled after the shooting, possibly in a white sedan, authorities said.

Anyone with information about the incident is asked to call the Cumberland County Sheriff's Office Homicide Unit at 910-321-6592.

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https://www.kplctv.com/2019/09/12/po...-travel-plaza/

Police: Two shot in self-defense at EZ Aces Casino, one dies
Patrick Deaville
LAKE CHARLES, La. (KPLC) - Lake Charles Police say that a fatal shooting at EZ Aces Casino early Thursday morning was in self-defense.

Police were called to the casino in regards to a robbery at 5 a.m. Thursday.

Two people were shot as they were “brutally attacking a victim within the establishment, when the victim was able to defend themselves and shoot the two subjects,” according to a news release from Lt. Jeff Keenum, spokesperson for the Lake Charles Police Department.

EZ Aces is located at the Road King Travel Plaza on the I-10 service road near Shattuck Street.

Keenum asked anyone with information about the incident to contact lead investigator Sgt. Larry Newingham at 337-491-1311.

Officer Dakota Baccigalopi was the initial reporting officer and Evidence Officer Jessica Single processed the scene.

Copyright 2019 KPLC. All rights reserved.

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https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nc/cha...n-fayetteville

Homeowner Shoots, Kills Home Invasion Suspect in Fayet*teville
By Spectrum News Staff Fayetteville PUBLISHED 8:02 AM ET Sep. 13, 2019 PUBLISHED September 13, 2019 @8:02 AM

FAYETTEVILLE, N.C. – Police are investigating a deadly home invasion in Fayetteville.

Authorities say it happened shortly before 7 p.m. Thursday on Lands End Road off Morganton Road, near McFayden Lake.

Responding officers report finding a man who was shot upon arrival. He was transported to the hospital where he was later pronounced dead.

Police say two men forced their way into the home. At least one of them was armed and they exchanged fire with the homeowner. The homeowner managed to shoot one of the suspects, and they are the one who died.

A woman in the home was also injured in the exchange.

The other suspect is still on the run.

If you have any information pertaining to this case, please reach out to the Fayetteville Police Department.

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https://alaska-native-news.com/would...roopers/44587/

Would-Be Car Burglar Held at Gunpoint for Craig Troopers

Alaska State Troopers responded to Port Saint Nicholas Road in Craig after receiving a call reporting a man being held at gunpoint at that location early Friday morning, AST reported today.

The caller reported that her husband was holding down a suspect at gunpoint this morning after he caught the suspect, later identified by troopers as 21-year-old Jacob Moser, “breaking into their vehicle.”

After troopers responded to the location they took Moser into custody on charges of Criminal trespass II. Troopers say alcohol played a factor in the incident.

He was remanded to the Craig Jail.

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I created a discussion thread for this story here. http://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.ph...89#post4058489



The quote that stands out to me was this by the judge.

"But society has to ensure that great discouragement is given to anyone who seeks to have a gun in their possession.

And this is why we can’t give one inch. This is what most antis really want in the U.S.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/new...-down-16918425

Former soldier who gunned down love rival from Birmingham cleared of murder

Jeffery Mills, who served in the Falklands, acted in self-defence when he fatally shot Andrew Jenkins, a jury has found

A former soldier who gunned down his love rival - who had been convicted of a firearms offence in Birmingham - has been cleared of murder and manslaughter but jailed for six-and-a-half years.

Jeffery Mills, who served in the Falklands, acted in self-defence when he fatally shot Andrew Jenkins, a jury has found.

The ex-British Army soldier shot Jenkins with an illegal pistol as he forced his way into his home in March this year, KentLive reports.

Our colleagues report Maidstone Crown Court heard the 54-year-old had armed himself with the prohibited self-loading Glock handgun and ammunition in fear after Mr Jenkins had discovered his two-year affair with his wife, Louise, 34.

Mills and his wife Jayne , who lived in Maidstone had been close friends for many years with Mr and Mrs Jenkins, who lived on a houseboat a few miles away in Rochester .


But tension grew when the fling came to light, and resulted in the fatal shooting two weeks later on Sunday, March 17 this year.

The jury heard "angst and aggression was flying in all directions" between the couples, climaxing when Mr Jenkins arrived at the Mills's first-floor flat in Cambridge Crescent armed with a knife at about 10.40am that day.

Within seconds of the front door being answered by Mrs Mills, he had been shot by Mills at close range and without warning.

The single bullet entered his left chest, significantly damaging both lungs, a major artery and ribs, before exiting through the right side of his back.

Mr Jenkins, also 54, was only able to stumble a short distance out of the flat before collapsing and dying at the scene.

A knife was later recovered from the ground, having been flung over a balcony as he tried to flee.

The court heard an aggressive Mr Jenkins had threatened Mrs Mills he would 'f***ing kill' her husband when she opened the door to him.

As she then tried to close it, he managed to get his foot over the threshold and push his way in.

Mrs Mills, a nurse, then heard a loud bang after her husband came out of their bedroom and fired one shot at Mr Jenkins.

On arrest, Mills, who also served in Canada and Germany and rose to rank of acting sergeant in his 13 years of service in the 1980s and early 1990s, told police: "I just did what I had to do."


He maintained when interviewed he never intended to kill Mr Jenkins, and said had he wanted to do so he would have 'shot him in the head and fired more than once'.

Mills added he made a 'split second decision', and that his army training had taught him to 'ask no questions'.

The former squaddie's legal team argued he had acted 'instinctively' when faced by an armed intruder.

Gillian Hunter Jones QC, defending, said the circumstances of the case were 'very unusual, if not unique', adding that there was 'clear evidence' Mr Jenkins had himself intended to kill that morning.

Mills told the court he acquired the pistol, which he kept in his sock drawer, in the genuine belief Mr Jenkins had done the same.


Of the moment he shot his one-time friend, Mills said: "I believe I acted to save my life and my wife's life.

"He was at my door, he was coming through my door screaming 'I'm going to kill you'.

"I had to act...I don't think, if I hadn't done that, I would still be here today."

The prosecution had alleged however that his actions that morning were 'unreasonable, grossly disproportionate, and completely over-the-top'.

Mills denied murder and manslaughter and was acquitted of both charges by the jury of eight men and four women after five hours' deliberation.


The diabetic dad of two had pleaded guilty to possessing a prohibited firearm, possession of a silencer, and possessing ammunition without a firearms certificate before the start of his trial.

Under pressure to protect himselfJailing him, Judge Statman said although the offences were aggravated by Mills not reporting his fears to police, he accepted he had acted under pressure to protect himself.

"This is a highly unusual case. I have no doubt that the only reason why you sought to gain possession of the Glock and ammunition was because you felt under immediate threat from the deceased.


"As the jury concluded, you believed that Mr Jenkins would seek you out and kill you as a result of his being told of the affair that you had had with his wife.

"Not only did you fear for yourself but threats were also made to your wife and to your son.

"But as you accepted, you were committing a serious criminal offence and you knew you were breaking the law.

"To take the law into your own hands is asking for trouble....Tragically, a life has been taken as a result.

"You are living and will for the rest of your life in the knowledge that in self-defence you have killed another person.

"But society has to ensure that great discouragement is given to anyone who seeks to have a gun in their possession.

"These are deadly weapons potentially and were there to be a licence that individuals could sort out difficulties of this kind in the manner and against the background of what I have heard, this country would be a very different place.

"There must be the imposition of an exemplary sentence pursuant to my public duty."

There were gasps and an angry outburst from members of Mr Jenkins's family after the verdicts were announced.

His daughter from a previous marriage had reportedly sat in the public gallery with a box containing his ashes.

She stood up and yelled at Judge Philip Statman: "He isn't here to talk now is he. He is dead now."


Shouting could be heard in the corridor as police officers led them from the courtroom, where members of Mills's family began to cry.

At the start of the trial, prosecutor Adam Feest QC said Mills had shot his one-time friend 'without any word of warning', and without knowing whether he was armed or not.

The court also heard any fears Mills and his wife had over alleged threats by Mr Jenkins were never reported to police.

"Mr Jenkins had taken no more than a step or two into the hallway when he was shot from a very short distance away by Jeffery Mills," Mr Feest told the court.


"It is the Crown's case that the defendant used grossly disproportionate force in defending himself from Mr Jenkins's intrusion into his flat.

"He did have a knife but the Crown say, and the defendant later said this in his interview with police, it wasn't something he knew.

"He hadn't in fact given himself enough time to see what it was that Mr Jenkins had."

Police also recovered a starter pistol and a ball-bearing gun from the flat which Mr Feest said Mills could have brandished instead to achieve 'the desired effect' of warning off the intruding Mr Jenkins.

He added: "Using a lethal firearm against a man he didn't know was even armed is not acting in self-defence."


The affair was discovered on March 8 after Mills and Mrs Jenkins were spotted booking a hotel room together.

Both wives gave evidence for the prosecution during which flame-haired Mrs Jenkins described her relationship with Mills as 'just sex'.

Having confessed to her husband, he then telephoned the defendant, saying 'You f***ed my wife. I'm going to f***ing kill you'.

The following day, Mr Jenkins also threatened to kill Mills' son 'because he wanted him to feel his pain', the jury heard.

But the prosecutor said contact between all four came to an end as the couples tried to repair their marriages.

However, Mills then acquired the illegal gun, telling his wife: "I have got to protect us. He is going to kill us...You know what he is like. If he comes round he is going to kill me."

The court heard Mr Jenkins had been convicted in 1994 of a firearm offence while living in Birmingham.

But any attempt 'to big himself up' by claiming he had served 10 years for attempted murder was untrue, said Mr Feest, and he had not been in trouble since 2001.

On the morning Mr Jenkins left his houseboat to drive to the Mills flat, his wife text him saying: "Not going to stop you cos (sic) you're going to do what you're going to do but whatever happens I still love you and I want you to know that."

However, there was no response and within 40 minutes of it being sent her husband was dead.

Mrs Jenkins denied any suggestion by Ms Hunter Jones that she knew her husband had gone to kill his rival that day or that her text was 'in support of him seeking revenge'.

She was not in court for the verdicts or sentencing.

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https://www.kxly.com/news/mom-of-man...nse/1120700975

Mom of man in road rage shooting: It was self-defense
Investigators say man who was shot was aggressor

Melissa Luck
Mom of man in road rage shooting: It was self-defense
SPOKANE COUNTY, Wash - The man shot in an apparent road rage incident in the Nine Mile area Thursday night appears to be the aggressor, according to Spokane County major crimes investigators and the shooter's mother.

The incident happened Thursday in the area of 8600 Block of N. Seven Mile Road.

Witnesses say a man was a passenger in a car and got upset with another driver. The passenger got out of the vehicle, was yelling at the driver and began physically assaulting him.

4 News Now spoke to the mother of that driver, Monica Pooley, who said her son warned the man that he had a concealed carry permit. He pulled it out as the man approached the vehicle and told investigators that the aggressive man taunted him, even as he warned him about the gun.

According to investigators, the driver thought the man was trying to take his gun and was punching him, so he fired the gun, hitting the man in the chest. He was taken to the hospital with life-threatening injuries.

The driver then panicked, threw the gun into the passenger seat and left the scene. He got to a safe location and called 911.

Investigators say based on the witness statements, the driver's statement and evidence at the scene, the man who was shot appeared to be the aggressor. While the shooter was initially detained, he was released.

Neither man's name has been released.

Detectives want to speak with anyone who may have witnessed the incident. They're asked to call Detective Mike Drapeau at 509-477-6921.

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https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2019/09/12/...las-apartment/

Suspect Shot While Trying To Rob Group Of People At Dallas Apartment Complex
DALLAS (CBSDFW.COM) – A suspect was shot in the chest while trying to rob a group of people at an apartment complex in Dallas late Wednesday evening, police say.

Police responded to the shooting at around 10 p.m. in the 1600 block of John West Road. When they arrived, they found the male suspect with a gunshot wound to his chest. He was taken to the hospital and is expected to survive.

According to police, the suspect was trying to rob a group of people and fired several shots in the air. Police say someone who wasn’t part of the group grabbed a shotgun and shot the suspect.

Police say they found a gun on the suspect when they got to the scene.

Police have not found the person who shot the suspect but say they are not expected to face charges.

The suspect was also involved in another robbery in South Dallas before he was shot, according to police. His identity has not yet been released.