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    Default Re: Shooting outside Milo event justified?

    He is aware that there are many conflicting narratives circulating about what occurred that night,” Lippek said in a statement released Monday evening. “My client wishes to express his empathy for the person who shot him. He hopes to engage in constructive dialogue with that person, in order to de-escalate and provide a community-based response to this violence.”

    Lawyer speak for "my client is guilty; this is the best I can do."

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    Quote Originally Posted by qmcorps View Post
    He is aware that there are many conflicting narratives circulating about what occurred that night,” Lippek said in a statement released Monday evening. “My client wishes to express his empathy for the person who shot him. He hopes to engage in constructive dialogue with that person, in order to de-escalate and provide a community-based response to this violence.”

    Lawyer speak for "my client is guilty; this is the best I can do."
    Yeah, not that the victim would be interested in a "constructive dialog" with the thug who attacked him.

    I'm enjoying the comment section of that Seattle Times article. Lots of crybullies who don't understand lethal force justification or the fact that guns on campus only violate school policy, not the law. Everything they know about licensed carriers, they learned from Clint Eastwood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hodgie View Post
    Sounds like the poor snowflake brought a brick to a gunfight, poor choice. Here's a tip get a job work real hard so that way your too tired to care about going out and trying to take away the 1st Amendment rights of others through intimidation and violence.
    Yeh, idiot comments after the article. Why would anyone bring a gun to a speech. Maybe to protect themselves against bricks.

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    Default Re: Shooting outside Milo event justified?

    Nice video here, I'll have to check out her channel.


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    The only thing she got wrong was the intended victim was the man who was attacked in the yellow hat as far as the guy who was shot well he was a violent asshole who wrote a check his ass couldn't cash.


    I also disagree with going on the violent offensive to prove others are weaker then I am. I'm a firm believer in self defense, I carry a gun every day and with that comes a major responsibly as we are all ambassadors for the 2A. Yell in my face all you want, put your finger in front of my face and wave it all you want, touch me and well we are now going to have an issue of large proportions.
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    Default Re: Shooting outside Milo event justified?

    Short answer: yes.
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    you can clearly tell he tried to run away and they grabbed him and dragged him back in, no way he gets charged
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    Default Re: Shooting outside Milo event justified?

    I was hoping Milo would be the Press Secretary.....
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    Only thing I see is a marksmanship issue.

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    Here is an update. This case is coming to a close.


    https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...opoulos-event/

    Prosecutors will not retry couple accused in shooting of antifa protester on UW campus during Milo Yiannopoulos event
    Mike Carter Sep. 6, 2019 at 5:50 pm Updated Sep. 6, 2019 at 6:18 pm
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    The King County prosecutor’s office will not seek a retrial in the assault case against Mark and Elizabeth Hokoana, accused in the near-fatal shooting of an anti-fascist protester on the University of Washington campus during a violent demonstration over the appearance of far-right firebrand Milo Yiannopoulos on Inauguration Day 2017.

    A jury in King County Superior Court deadlocked in August after a five-week trial and five days of deliberations when the panel split over ideological lines, according to the jury foreman, and the shooting victim refused to testify.

    Judge Kristen Richardson declared a mistrial and prosecutors have been weighing their chances on winning a unanimous verdict in a retrial. Whitney Keyes, a spokeswoman for King County Prosecuting Attorney Dan Satterberg, said Friday the decision was that a retrial would likely yield the same result.

    “Our office has carefully reviewed the evidence produced at trial and considered whether a retrial would be likely to produce a different outcome. We believe it unlikely that a retrial would produce a unanimous verdict,” Satterberg said in a statement. “In light of that, we have decided to dismiss this case.”

    The prosecution had been an uphill fight from the outset, made moreso by the fact that the victim of the shooting, 35-year-old Joshua Dukes, refused to testify. He had said through an attorney, Abigail Cromwell, that he did not trust or believe in the punitive U.S. justice system. Before trial, Dukes — a computer security expert — had asked to meet face-to-face with the Hokoanas, but they declined.

    The trial resulted from a confrontation in Red Square on the University of Washington campus the night of Jan. 20, 2017. A large crowd of antifa protesters, fueled by outrage over the inauguration of President Donald Trump earlier, confronted a group of Trump supporters and others waiting to attend a scheduled appearance by former Breitbart editor and arch-conservative provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos at Kane Hall. The confrontations turned violent, with fist-fights and bottles, rocks and paint-bombs being thrown.

    Evidence and testimony during the trial centered around video shot on phones and cameras during the raucous demonstrations. There were numerous fights and confrontations that night, which only escalated with the arrival of a large contingent of black-clad antifa protesters. In the middle of it all were the Hokoanas.

    They were among a group waiting to see Yiannopoulos, and according to testimony and evidence presented at trial, they had come to the event armed and ready to respond to any protesters who happened to get in their way. Marc was armed with a tactical knife and pepper spray. Elizabeth, who has a concealed carry permit, had a 9-mm handgun in a holster under her parka.

    Marc Hokoana in a social media exchange with a friend the night before the protests had boasted, “If the snowflakes get out of hand” — using a pejorative term for liberals often used by Trump supporters — “I’m just going to wade through their ranks and start cracking skulls.” Prosecutors said he was involved in no fewer than five fights and scuffles that night.

    Exactly what happened just before the shooting depended on who was telling the story, although much of what occurred was caught on the video, which was repeatedly shown to the jury. What is clear is that Marc Hokoana used pepper spray on some antifa protesters, and drew the attention of Dukes, a large and heavily tattooed avowed anarchist clad in a leather jacket, who rushed Marc and grabbed him. Elizabeth Hokoana, in often tearful testimony, told the jury Dukes had a knife and said that she believed he was prepared to “gut” her husband. She fired a single shot from her Glock at almost point-blank range, the bullet ripping through Duke’s belly and lodging in his back.

    No knife was ever found, and nobody else who testified during the trial saw it. Dukes was critically injured and spent several weeks in the hospital.

    After the shooting, the couple fled the campus and went home, but returned to the UW later that night, surrendered to police and claimed self-defense.

    Kim Gordon, the Seattle defense attorney who represented Marc Hokoana, said Friday that Satterberg’s decision “is a huge relief.” Her client faced six months in jail if convicted.

    Steven Wells, who defended Elizabeth Hokoana on a felony assault charge, said his client was “relieved that they can be done with this and get on with their lives.” She faced up to 15 years in prison if she had been convicted.

    The jury, during deliberations, split along ideological lines, said the jury foreman, who spoke at the time on condition of anonymity.

    In the end, the foreman said, the panel had deadlocked 9-3 in favor of convicting Elizabeth Hokoana of first-degree felony assault for shooting Dukes. They deadlocked 7-5 in favor of convicting Marc Hokoana of misdemeanor assault, for using pepper spray on antifa protesters in the incident that precipitated the shooting.

    The jury had asked in the middle of deliberations to rewatch an anti-bias video shown to prospective jurors in superior court. While prosecutors downplayed the idea that politics had played a significant role in the jury’s failure to reach a verdict, Raam Wong, the senior deputy prosecutor who tried the case, said the decision to rewatch that video was unusual.

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