Mossberg 14" PGO

**esh21167** · January 9th, 2017, 09:10 PM

I've seen a few older threads on this and there still seems to be debate about the legality of the Mossberg 14" barreled PGO with the bird's head grip. Not to really open up an old can of worms, so here's a question. Does anyone have any experience with Elk County Ammo and Arms in St. Marys? They are currently selling a version from Asylum Weaponry. Do they have them in their possession? Certainly if they were not PA legal, they would already be in deep water for just having them in the state, and for selling them without NFA paperwork/transfer.

For sale on their website: http://www.ammoandarmsstore.com/shop...gauge-non-nfa/

and on Gunbroker: http://www.gunbroker.com/item/612484316

and also selling the 14" barrel conversion kit on Gunbroker: http://www.gunbroker.com/item/612559319

**USMC3531** · January 9th, 2017, 09:17 PM

imo you could buy a new gun and sbs it for the same money or buy used and be cheaper

**esh21167** · January 9th, 2017, 09:28 PM

Well, around $350 for a 500/590 plus about $200 for the kit. Or $200 for the SBS stamp to cut you own barrel on a stocked shotgun. How short could the barrel be on a 500/590, or an 870, without shortening the mag tube, arms, etc.?

**NathanB** · January 9th, 2017, 09:43 PM

Mine is 12 inches. It's cut flush with the end of the tube. It's a rem 870 with a 18 inch barrel the plain Jane 300 dollar one so plus tax stamp and cut work is like 600 bucks

**USMC3531** · January 9th, 2017, 10:02 PM

I think a mossburg ends up around 15" without modifying the tube

**Tim Ault** · January 13th, 2017, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by USMC3531

I think a mossburg ends up around 15" without modifying the tube

IMO 3 inches isn't worth it in practical terms or money spent .

**USMC3531** · January 13th, 2017, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by Tim Ault

IMO 3 inches isn't worth it in practical terms or money spent .

dont use a mossberg then, or buy a short tube/barrel or do the machining yourself.

**SHEPHERD321** · January 13th, 2017, 08:45 PM

No one hit the point of this. The PGO can be loaded in your car like a pistol.

**NathanB** · January 13th, 2017, 08:55 PM

So can a sbs.

**esh21167** · January 13th, 2017, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by SHEPHERD321

No one hit the point of this. The PGO can be loaded in your car like a pistol.

Actually, my hope for this thread was to see if someone had some insight into Elk County Ammo and Arms in St. Marys listed in my OP. If the birds head Mossberg is supposedly a PA illegal firearm, I can't see how they haven't had their license revoked, assets confiscated, and are awaiting trial on criminal charges.