State police confiscating carry pistols

[AHelm3]

I don't necessarily think that the gun shop is blowing smoke. They have probably had some local instances where someones firearm was confiscated by the police. While, legally, they shouldn't be allowed to take it if is doesn't show up in their "not a database", I am sure it happens from time to time.

This guy is a prime example.
http://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.php?t=134228

[Carson]

I don't necessarily think that the gun shop is blowing smoke. They have probably had some local instances where someones firearm was confiscated by the police. While, legally, they shouldn't be allowed to take it if is doesn't show up in their "not a database", I am sure it happens from time to time.

This guy is a prime example.
http://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.php?t=134228

There is also the possibility that a customer of theirs had guns confiscated, but there was more to the story than just not listed in the non-database.

[JenniferG]

Plain and simple and we all know it, the ROS that the State Police maintains is an illegal registry of firearms. It may not be complete and those are the weasel words used to maintain this illegality but it is a registry none the less. Lets all be honest.

[TaePo]

Plain and simple and we all know it, the ROS that the State Police maintains is an illegal registry of firearms. It may not be complete and those are the weasel words used to maintain this illegality but it is a registry none the less. Lets all be honest.

Even if partial or an incomplete database; if they are using it as such (a registry of sorts), then it is what it is. The PA Supreme Court be damned. The legislature stated that once a background is passed in 'x' days all data is to be destroyed. Legislating from the bench is our downfall in PA.

[Qtrborecrazy]

To be honest, no.

But it is a huge training issue here in Philadelphia. I have had the same conversation that Steve in PA mentions with some of my coworkers. One comeback was that they still run the vehicle for wants even though it was stopped for going through a redlight and have no immediate reason to believe it was stolen. And then they add the gun to the investigation.

How do they find out about the gun and get the serial # ?

[Carson]

How do they find out about the gun and get the serial # ?

The guns are found when they are either fully observed, partially observed or the driver or occupant offers that they are carrying one. Supposedly LTCF info is accessible by running the DL (I have yet to personally see this) so that is another possible source.

The serial number is obtained when the officer properly or improperly takes hold of the gun.

[Qtrborecrazy]

The serial number is obtained when the officer improperly takes hold of the gun.

To BUST BALLS, you know I was going there. I'll revert back to my hippie days, love you man.

[soberbyker]

~snip~

The serial number is obtained when the officer properly or improperly takes hold of the gun.

Are screw drivers part of the duty belt? The officer would have to take off my Hogue grip to see the serial on my SP101

[Carson]

To BUST BALLS, you know I was going there. I'll revert back to my hippie days, love you man.

Sometimes, I can't disagree.

So you experienced free love and all that stuff?

[Carson]

Are screw drivers part of the duty belt? The officer would have to take off my Hogue grip to see the serial on my SP101

I have a very nice Leatherman on my belt, I am sure something would work.

On a semi serious note, many Philly cops today would not know how to manipulate a revolver.