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    Default Re: Keeping a round chambered

    Quote Originally Posted by DennisH82 View Post
    I carry a RIA M1911A1 as my EDC Condition 1. While at first I was a bit cautious about doing so and had a tendency to check my slide lock every so often I have become accustomed to it and haven't shot myself in the foot or ass yet With all my years in the Army it was just recently (post 9/11) that we carried loaded weapons other than at a range. I will never be totally at ease but I want that, I want to always be aware, I don't want to forget and do something stupid.
    I carried a 1911 of some kind for nearly twenty years. I never felt "uncomfortable" with condition 1. I thought Glocks were crazy.
    For some reason I switched a layaway of a 1911 to a Glock. I went to the range and my first few shots were dead center. I started to carry the G19.
    As Dennis said but with a Glock instead, I was fully aware and conscious that I had to be aware and cautious. Not that I was flippant with regards to the 1911s, I was just so comfortable and confident in and with them. Admittedly I'm of a generation or type of person that doesn't always grab eye or ears to run a circular saw or such. The Glocks just kinda reinforced in me keep the finger off the trigger. Not that it was an issue with me but knowing there isn't a real secondary device keeping me from doing something careless. It made me more safety conscious in general.

    Hard to explain without sounding like I was reckless before but it changed my state of mind

  2. #152
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    Default Re: Keeping a round chambered

    OP.. So what did you decide.. empty or chambered?
    Retired US Army
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    Default Re: Keeping a round chambered

    Quote Originally Posted by Parrisk View Post
    OP.. So what did you decide.. empty or chambered?
    Rational, or irrational?

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    Default Re: Keeping a round chambered

    I'm suprised nobody pointed out you can put a safety on with an empty chamber. The term is cocked and locked and it's assumed to be loaded. It is nesisary to cock a 1911 to engage the thumb safety. That can be done many ways and only two I can think of will end with a round in the chamber. Dropping one in or stripped from a loaded mag in the magwell. So now why is locked and loaded wrong again? It's locked and(AND) its loaded, as opposed to being locked and unloaded. Two valid states of many.

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    Default Re: Keeping a round chambered

    I hope there's people debating this 50 years from now; means the 2A is still going strong.

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    Default Re: Keeping a round chambered

    Quote Originally Posted by Palerider View Post
    I hope there's people debating this 50 years from now; means the 2A is still going strong.
    no, lazurs. will be debating whether we keep the batteries in or not.
    "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

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    Default Re: Keeping a round chambered

    Quote Originally Posted by fallenleader View Post
    no, lazurs. will be debating whether we keep the batteries in or not.
    Hopefully by the spell checkers are better.
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    Break the rules and you get no bones,
    all you get is ridicule, laughter,
    and a trip to the house of pain.

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    Default Re: Keeping a round chambered

    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    Hopefully by then spell checkers are better.
    It was intentional for humor. laser.
    Do you keep your spell check on or off?
    Some people like to keep it on with auto correct. For faster deployment.
    Others keep it off but accessible, they feel they can get to it quickly enough when needed.
    I keep it on but manually apply it.
    fify
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    Default Re: Keeping a round chambered

    Quote Originally Posted by fallenleader View Post
    It was intentional for humor. laser.
    Do you keep your spell check on or off?
    Some people like to keep it on with auto correct. For faster deployment.
    Others keep it off but accessible, they feel they can get to it quickly enough when needed.
    I keep it on but manually apply it.
    fify
    I keep it on all the time, too cautious not to. Very nervous about an accidental miss-spell. But I've found its not 100% reliable so I treat my 2 booger pickers (1 finger on each hand) as the real spell checkers.

  10. #160
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    Default Re: Keeping a round chambered

    Didn't read this whole thread.... either way, it's foolish to not carry with a found in the camber

    In my experience being robbed by an armed robber... the first few precious seconds matter a lot! Instead of racking your slide of your EDC weapon... you could have been scanning for an exit route, you could have been looking for the best possible target to shoot that man... may it be dead center, headshot, etc, you could have been scanning ahead of the robber to see who and or what is in your firing path incase those hollow points decide they want to create an exit wound

    It's too many fucking what ifs and variables in a situation where you have "put a round" in the chamber to use your gun... what about everything else?

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