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    Default MTN Jack ARRESTED for OC near Obama rally site!

    According to a post on OpenCarry.org, OCDO and PAFOA forum member MTN Jack was arrested tonite when he OC'ed his pistol and a bible IN THE VICINITY OF an Obama rally in PA today. Here's a link to the post:

    http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum46/15537.html

    Is there anymore info on this? If MTN Jack is reading this, I would advise you not to respond to either thread until you have a lawyer and they approve it.

    All of the details are not fully clear yet, but here are some links to the early news stories about it:

    http://www.timesonline.com/articles/...2890214530.txt

    http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/...84/detail.html

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26464328/

    Before you go diving into the full length of the thread, you may want to check out the summary thread located here:

    http://www.pafoa.org/forum/concealed...fo-thread.html
    Last edited by RedKnightt; September 11th, 2008 at 05:43 PM.
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    Default Re: MTN Jack arrested for OC at Obama rally

    I'm guessing this is MtnJack.

    http://timesonline.com/articles/2008...2890214530.txt

    Man arrested for having gun at rally



    By Bill Vidonic, Times Staff

    Published: Friday, August 29, 2008 11:10 PM EDT
    BEAVER — An Industry man is facing a disorderly conduct charge for attending the Barack Obama rally in Irvine Park with a loaded gun that was holstered on his hip, according to state police and the Beaver County sheriff’s department.

    John Noble, 50, was questioned by police for several hours Friday night after the incident, in which witnesses said he also was passing out fliers with writing about gun rights.

    John Atkinson of Vanport Township said he saw Noble passing out the fliers and noticed the small-caliber handgun strapped to the man’s waist. He said he quickly notified nearby deputy sheriffs, and deputies Joseph O’Sche and Rich Yonlisky approached the man as he walked along Market Street.

    Atkinson said that when the deputies asked why he had a gun, Noble replied, “Because I’m an American,” and one of the deputies responded, “Well, you’re under arrest.”

    Noble was hustled to a nearby vehicle, and state police took him to the Brighton Township barracks to question him.

    Beaver County Sheriff George David said that Noble insisted he had a right to have the gun because he has a permit to carry it. It wasn’t clear late Friday whether Noble had a valid permit.

    David said Noble “wanted to show his rights.” He said Noble never removed the gun from the holster or threatened anyone.

    Noble’s arrest took place around 7 p.m., nearly 90 minutes before Sen. Obama and the rest of his campaign team arrived in Beaver.

    Bill Vidonic can be reached online at bvidonic@timesonline.com.



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    Default Re: MTN Jack arrested for OC at Obama rally

    I hope he successfully sues the shit out of those who arrested him, and OASN, I sincerely wish that John Atkinson has a long, dragged out, excruciatingly painful, bout with stomach and colon cancer, and dies without pain medication.

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    Default Re: MTN Jack arrested for OC at Obama rally

    Quote Originally Posted by headcase View Post
    I hope he successfully sues the shit out of those who arrested him, and OASN, I sincerely wish that John Atkinson has a long, dragged out, excruciatingly painful, bout with stomach and colon cancer, and dies without pain medication.

    I'm guessing John Atkinson thinks he's a f**king hero now...

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    Default Re: MTN Jack arrested for OC at Obama rally

    Thanks for the heads up.
    I didn't watch the news tonight. I'm sure it was reported by the locals.

    All I will say at this point is, this should be interesting.

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    Default Re: MTN Jack arrested for OC at Obama rally

    Before we collectively hex Mr. Atkinson with ill will, he's not the villain here. He saw a man open carrying a gun, still not a common sight, and alerted police. The problem started when the police approached Mr Noble, instead of informing Mr Atkinson that Mr Noble was legal, they decided that legal exercise of 1st and 2nd Amendment rights was disorderly conduct.
    Last edited by RedKnightt; August 30th, 2008 at 12:05 AM. Reason: editing to remove brain fart about needing an LTCF to OC outside on Philly
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    Default Re: MTN Jack arrested for OC at Obama rally

    Quote Originally Posted by RedKnightt View Post
    Before we collectively hex Mr. Atkinson with ill will, he's not the villain here. He saw a man open carrying a gun, still not a common sight, and alerted police. The problem started when the police approached Mr Noble, and instead of making sure he had a LTCF and then informing Mr Atkinson that Mr Noble was legal, they decided that legal exercise of 1st and 2nd Amendment rights was disorderly conduct.

    No need to verify a LTCF. Open carry on foot is legal without a license in PA.

    ETA: As lildobe points out, a LTCF is required in Philly. Thanks for the reminder.
    Last edited by bdevil73; August 30th, 2008 at 12:01 AM. Reason: forgot about Philly.



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    Default Re: MTN Jack arrested for OC at Obama rally

    Quote Originally Posted by RedKnightt View Post
    ...instead of making sure he had a LTCF...
    You don't need a LTCF to carry openly (Unless you are in Philly) and the mere act of OC is NOT RAS for them to stop and ID you.

    That's why the PASC decision about OC states that it's best for the officers to avoid contact all together, to reduce the likelihood of something going bad.
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    Default Re: MTN Jack arrested for OC at Obama rally

    Dega and I were driving through Beaver about an hour before this happened and were talking about what would happen if someone showed up legally carrying a gun. I thought they would be escorted out of the area, but wasn't sure they would or cold be arrested. I guess know I know.



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    Default Re: MTN Jack arrested for OC at Obama rally

    This is a shitstorm about to unfold.
    Any mission, any conditions, any foe at any range.
    Twice the mayhem, triple the force.
    Ten times the action, total hardcore.

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