MTN Jack ARRESTED for OC near Obama rally site!

[mikey]

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[granuale]

You talk like a lawyer....are you?

Yes. stupid 10 character post requirement

[alowe56]

alowe56, this is not an opinion question. Case law or precedent is a real actual thing that binds people every day. It cannot be made by juries sitting in the Court of Common Pleas. This case has in no way shape or form become precedent or case law. Have you ever seen on T.V. when a lawyer is sitting in front of rows and rows of books that look like a large set of encyclopedias? They are not encyclopedias. They are books containing court rulings that were ruled on by appellate courts with published opinions that are (or were when published) case law or precedent. The reason (before digitization) that lawyers needed such books was so they could look up the cases to find out exactly what the law was.

No, I don't watch court on TV. It's too depressing. As a matter of fact, I find our whole legal system depressing.

[rjg]

A little late but CONGRATS!!!

[ksig1869]

I'm very late but congratulations. I'm glad the justice system worked in your case.

[MrsMtnJack]

sorry for the bump..
but this post is for you.
the picture.
it wasnt going to be released, but a picture of the picture ended up in the paper, it was submitted into evidence to bear witness that I spoke true. That the evidence submitted in the prelim was not true in my opinion or in the picture.
There were not crowds of people. There were 40-60 people with their backs turned.
The picture. reporters wanted it. i have worried over how to get it to you as it belongs to you, finally i just decided to post it.
because of you all and God we were able to stand.
because of you and God we were not alone!

THANK YOU!

FROM JAN:

When we set out on our journey we were not alone.
We went together and with God.
We went forth as Pennsylvanians and Americans.
Along the way we were questioned...and..
you all rallied,
you all answered the call,
you all stood brave tall and true,
you all sacrificed your time, talents, money, life,
you all drove to the hearing and the trial, you testified,
you all invited us to dinners
you all educated the masses,
you checked on our well being, offered wishes, prayers and encouragement,
you were the jury,
you all rock.
Thank you, purely from the depths of our hearts!
you showed what it is to be A Pennsylvanian, An American.

The picture I took of Jacks arrest is titled
"You do not walk alone"



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FROM JACK:

A bed time story for you all, I would like to finish my OC log story that began in sept of last year. Remember the story of the fast car with interesting people? Well the story has a happy ending and you all may know the out come.

Judged by 12 and carried the whole way by the most amazing group of friends a person could ever hope to have. The members of the PAFOA.
It is a ride that was long, with many hills and valleys, not to mention a turn or two. Jan and i are so greatfull that you all went on this ride with us, we could not have had better travel compaions.You endured all of the hardships along with us, and not a small task it was.

The members of PAFOA have much to be proud of and all of the credit goes to you, as we would not have had the strength to carry this out ourselves. Many of you worked tirelessly on our trip with hardly a rest stop on the journey. Oh well maybe a little stop for dinner here and there. A short stop in Harrisburgh for a refresher and new ideas. A stop to visit our friends at the FOAC ,and numerous stops for directions of legal advice. We picked up our friends at OCDO and also let the VCDL people ride along. Across the country we picked up many hitchhikers and they wanted to stay on the ride. For this we are forever greatfull.

Our fuel tank never emptyed and our tires never flatened because of you all. Quite simply we had an easy pass. The journey was long and will never be forgoten. I am tired from the trip as i am sure you all are, but its one i would do all over again. Thanks so much for the ride, with the beautifull veiw, and the interesting people we met along the way. We love you all for the directions we got, its a smooth road ahead because of you all, and the best part of all is not a ticket at all. Love you all Mtn Jack

[MrsMtnJack]

P.S. no re-bumps needed!

[MrsMtnJack]

P.S. no re-bumps needed!

ooops.... ....so I don't listen to myself!

A neighbor stopped by to tell us: Jack made the paper of beaver counties top 10 stories of 2009.
The paper, I was told, has a picture, but the online article doesn't.
Our daughter is going to try and pick one up on the way here....hope he was smiling.
The inappropriate remarks by the judge still tick me off!

http://www.timesonline.com/bct_news/...p-stories.html

"Not guilty in Beaver

Knafelc also presided over a July trial that garnered national attention, raising questions about gun rights.

Industry resident John Noble was arrested after he was seen carrying a gun at the Aug. 29, 2008, Obama-Biden rally in Beaver. State police said Noble didn’t threaten anyone with the gun, but simply caused a disruption by wearing it at the presidential campaign stop.

Noble maintained he simply wanted to educate people about gun rights.

On July 17, a jury pronounced Noble not guilty of a misdemeanor charge of disrupting a public gathering. Knafelc then found Noble not guilty of a summary charge of disorderly conduct, though he told Noble that he performed a “foolish” act by taking the gun to the rally."

The Judge was permitted to say his comment about "foolish" after the jury gave their verdict and as he was rendering his verdict on the summary, but I feel his off the cuff remarks when charging the jury possibly delayed the juries deliberations that extra day. Just my opinion.

[renegadephoenix]

i fully agree that Knaflec was trying to lead the Jury to a guilty verdic. i wanted to jump over his bench and beat him sensless for some of the things he was saying to the jury.

[Pa. Patriot]

i fully agree that Knaflec was trying to lead the Jury to a guilty verdic. i wanted to jump over his bench and beat him sensless for some of the things he was saying to the jury.

He definitely was, including patently false instructions on what the law says.

He is a disgrace and a stain on the system.