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    Quote Originally Posted by Parrisk View Post
    Yes after they have completed required training and their range training.. PA Constables are covered by LEOSA but to carry out of state they need the firearms training card. Or so I have been instructed


    Also local laws concerning Mag limits and Ammo still apply!! Just being covered under LEOSA does not make it legal when stopped in NJ with a 20 round mag full of hollow points.
    As stated earlier the HP issue was addressed and changed changed in 2010, they are legal to carry under LEOSA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Statkowski View Post
    What if you're a Constable or Deputy Constable? Technically you fall under LEOSA (which County Sheriffs and Deputy Sheriffs do not, unless they're from Allegheny County), but your duty/qualified handgun is your personal handgun.
    Out of curiosity why don't Sheriffs or Deputy Sheriffs fall under LEOSA?
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    As I understand it Sheriffs have booking authority but not arrest.. and Constables have arrest and not booking authority. It is the arrest authority that drives the LEOSA definitions
    Allegheny County Sheriffs have both. I am talking about arrest without warrant, like on the spot.

    At least that is what I have been told and seem to remember reading.

    And State Police / Constables are the only two PA Law enforcement officers with state wide arrest/legal authority
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    There is no qualification card requirement for constables. As long as they are active, I believe they have to qualify every year just like active LEO's. Active LEO's do not have to carry any kind of qualification documentation. The only requirement is that within the past year, they qualified with their weapon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parrisk View Post

    And State Police / Constables are the only two PA Law enforcement officers with state wide arrest/legal authority
    Municipal police in PA have statewide arrest/legal authority, 42 PaCS § 8953.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve in PA View Post
    There is no qualification card requirement for constables. As long as they are active, I believe they have to qualify every year just like active LEO's. Active LEO's do not have to carry any kind of qualification documentation. The only requirement is that within the past year, they qualified with their weapon.
    What should they carry, then? Badge?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metz View Post
    What should they carry, then? Badge?
    Active duty needs to carry acceptable identification card from department and supposedly MPO card (but we have not received new ones from the state in over 2 years)

    Retired has to carry acceptable identification card from department and qualification card, I suppose this takes the place of the MPO card

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parrisk View Post
    As I understand it Sheriffs have booking authority but not arrest.. and Constables have arrest and not booking authority. It is the arrest authority that drives the LEOSA definitions
    Allegheny County Sheriffs have both. I am talking about arrest without warrant, like on the spot.

    At least that is what I have been told and seem to remember reading.

    And State Police / Constables are the only two PA Law enforcement officers with state wide arrest/legal authority
    What exactly is "booking authority"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carson View Post
    Active duty needs to carry acceptable identification card from department and supposedly MPO card (but we have not received new ones from the state in over 2 years)

    Retired has to carry acceptable identification card from department and qualification card, I suppose this takes the place of the MPO card
    I heard state parole agents only need their ID card.
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    Default Re: LEOSA and NJ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Metz View Post
    What should they carry, then? Badge?
    They should carry the same thing active LEO's are required to carry; Photographic ID from their department or whoever certifies them as constables. A badge means nothing.
    Last edited by Steve in PA; November 5th, 2016 at 07:31 PM.

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