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    That's bullshit.The gun being stolen out of your car has nothing to do with your permit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knight0334 View Post
    Yes, lets.

    Firearm was in a locked compartment. Compartment was in a vehicle not owned by the thief. There is no other lawful duty.

    First and foremost, people have a duty to not steal other peoples' stuff. The rest really is of no consequence. Fault is always on the thief, if you defer blame on any level it is no different that what anti-gun folks do.
    Can i love this post lol #amen to that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carson View Post
    In a locked plastic glovebox ?! In an unlocked car?!

    Let's be realistic here.
    Shame on you for blaming the victim!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krichardson View Post
    That's bullshit.The gun being stolen out of your car has nothing to do with your permit.
    Exactly how I feel but you can't win with philly pd

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    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    Welcome to Philly where you're first victimized by the criminals, then by the PPD.
    Ain't this the truth!

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    Ok I get that Philly PD will revoke her LTCF... They have pulled this bullshit for years. It's one of the reasons that so many residents had an out of state permit until they killed that off.... My question is, what happens to the Montgomery County resident or Berks County resident that has his firearm stolen while visiting Philadelphia. Philly PD controls the process for Philadelphia County... Do they send a request to the other counties requesting revocation ? Does it ever happen ? If it doesn't happen to a non resident, can the lawsuit claim that they are treating similarly situated people differently or even intentionally by punishing their residents ?

    Sounds like a question for Gun Lawyer... I know....

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    Quote Originally Posted by knight0334 View Post
    Yes, lets.

    Firearm was in a locked compartment. Compartment was in a vehicle not owned by the thief. There is no other lawful duty.

    First and foremost, people have a duty to not steal other peoples' stuff. The rest really is of no consequence. Fault is always on the thief, if you defer blame on any level it is no different that what anti-gun folks do.
    You are absolutely right, there is no lawful duty. But there is common sense. If you leave something of value in your car and are relying on others not to break into your car, you are putting your trust in the wrong place.

    It is the thiefs fault, but that is a small consolation when you get your stuff stolen. I don't see many people leaving their bikes unlocked out on the sidewalk or purses laying on the front seat of parked cars. Why is that ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by markshere2 View Post
    Shame on you for blaming the victim!
    I am not blaming the victim. PAMedic said her gun was secure. Period! I fully disagree with that statement.

    And since her gun was taken from her vehicle, apparently is was not that secure.

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    Nothing that is secure can be broken into.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Kahuna 19547 View Post
    Ok I get that Philly PD will revoke her LTCF... They have pulled this bullshit for years. It's one of the reasons that so many residents had an out of state permit until they killed that off.... My question is, what happens to the Montgomery County resident or Berks County resident that has his firearm stolen while visiting Philadelphia. Philly PD controls the process for Philadelphia County... Do they send a request to the other counties requesting revocation ? Does it ever happen ? If it doesn't happen to a non resident, can the lawsuit claim that they are treating similarly situated people differently or even intentionally by punishing their residents ?

    Sounds like a question for Gun Lawyer... I know....

    First of all, I don't agree that people should get their permits revoked for getting their firearm stolen, unless there are other extenuating issues.

    I have heard of incidents where detectives did send requests to have the LTCFs confiscated from people outside of Philadelphia County. I don't know what the response to those requests where.

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