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**Vet10** · August 26th, 2016, 01:09 AM

Hey guys new member here just moved to the area bout 4 months ago. Just separated from the Navy and tried to get a concealed carry but I'm at a road block of not knowing anyone in this area Haha. Well gunna be a while. Any advice on this one lol.

**R L Suehr** · August 26th, 2016, 01:18 AM

There's nothing in the law that says your references have to live in the area you are applying for your LTCF. In fact they don't even have to live in state. If the sheriff is telling you otherwise, that's a problem with the sheriff over stepping his authority.

**Daycrawler** · August 26th, 2016, 01:34 AM

Welcome to the forum and what he said! ^^^

**MARINE DIVISION TWO** · August 26th, 2016, 09:19 AM

Recently submitted my sixth renewal and used an out of county reference ! Its been three weeks today and not recieved the renewal as of yet so they are #1 Behind in issueing ? #2 They got bent out of shape because of my out of county reference ? I would submit what you have as any reference and play their waiting game ! And keep us posted ! Good Luck

**Rosco the Iroc** · August 26th, 2016, 09:36 AM

I wonder if there's some other navy vet that lives in county that could help you out.

**HiredGoon** · August 26th, 2016, 09:57 AM

Looking at the Monroe sheriff's website, he has a lot of BS on there about applying for a LTCF:

If disabled, written documentation from your doctor or social security explaining the nature of your disability.
Copy of your DD-214 if you were in the military.
Photocopy of Local 1% Earned Income Tax or other tax paper if retired/disabled.
Also a questionnaire is apparently sent to your Monroe Co. only references.

WTF???

**R L Suehr** · August 26th, 2016, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by HiredGoon

Looking at the Monroe sheriff's website, he has a lot of BS on there about applying for a LTCF:

If disabled, written documentation from your doctor or social security explaining the nature of your disability.
Copy of your DD-214 if you were in the military.
Photocopy of Local 1% Earned Income Tax or other tax paper if retired/disabled.
Also a questionnaire is apparently sent to your Monroe Co. only references.

WTF???

Looks like he's already being sued.
http://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.php?t=307313

**HiredGoon** · August 26th, 2016, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by Vet10

I thought it was state law to provide references in the state of Pennsylvania

The only mention at all of references for a LTCF is on the application, not in any statute. Here's a scan of that actual part of the application:

LTCFReference.jpg

**Gunsnwater** · August 26th, 2016, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by Vet10

I thought it was state law to provide references in the state of Pennsylvania

Nope. I think they justify it to themselves with the "known charecter" part. Honestly if law enforcement doesn't know you as a dirtbag, that should be good enough.