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    Default Re: Woman fatally shot by FLA LEO during "Gun Demonstration"

    Quote Originally Posted by scruff View Post
    So the department routinely uses real guns with blanks for training, and he was given a box of blanks that weren't blanks by someone else in the dept. Sounds like criminal negligence all around.
    My dad said when he was stationed in Germany, one of his Sargents (who was always drunk) "accidentally" mixed some live rounds with the blanks in some M14 magazines.

    The problem was fixed soon after while he was asleep.

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    Default Re: Woman fatally shot by FLA LEO during "Gun Demonstration"

    Quote Originally Posted by c45man View Post
    Oh I don't know about the stupidity of the jurors. A good legal defense team can make otherwise reasonable jurors believe that criminal charges are not justified. All 12 jurors must be convinced, and there can be doubt placed in at least a few, a number much lower than 12, which is all that it will take. The prosecution and defense team could be possibly working on a plea arrangement. Obviously neither side wants to lose this one. With a room full of lawyers, stranger things have happened.
    Yep, just two liberal gun experts. The kind who think a Ruger 10/22 is a machine gun, because it's a semi-auto.

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    Default Re: Woman fatally shot by FLA LEO during "Gun Demonstration"

    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    Uh oh, cop is fucked: http://www.nbc-2.com/story/34878852/...ademy-shooting

    Here comes the fail train, there's a lot of fail here. Sadly, I can see their defense, they're going to try to claim that it's the fault of someone else.

    Read the article. These people shouldn't have been teaching anyone.
    So Coel, Lt Heck and Hecks husband didn't know the difference between blanks and live ammo? Inbreeding does strange things to people. Fire all 3.

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    Default Re: Woman fatally shot by FLA LEO during "Gun Demonstration"

    Quote Originally Posted by SevenMilePete View Post
    Killing someone is not an honest mistake. The two young guys I mentioned earlier were unfamiliar with weapons, and did not know the basic safety rules. A police officer should never cover a human being with a firearm without absolutely knowing it is unloaded. Even blanks can cause injury. I think behavior WILL change as a result of this. No more actual weapons used in demonstrations by LEOs, at least in this department.

    By the way. Both those young men learned their lesson, and will both never even look at another firearm, even if they were not prohibited now, as they both killed a childhood friend, as a result of an "honest" mistake. They were both found guilty, and are in prison.
    I dont think there is an exception to that rule. I bet he did think it was absolutely unloaded.

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    Default Re: Woman fatally shot by FLA LEO during "Gun Demonstration"

    Now the cop is filing an appeal to get his job back: http://www.mysuncoast.com/news/local...4e40bc7f9.html
    Rules are written in the stone,
    Break the rules and you get no bones,
    all you get is ridicule, laughter,
    and a trip to the house of pain.

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