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    Default Question about Preemption

    I always see and hear people quoting the beginning portion of HB 18 S6120 where it says,


    12 (a) General rule.--[No] Except as set forth in subsection
    13 (a.2) and notwithstanding 53 Pa.C.S. § 2962(g) (relating to
    14 limitation on municipal powers), no county, municipality or
    15 township may in any manner regulate the lawful ownership,
    16 possession, transfer or transportation of firearms, ammunition
    17 or ammunition components when carried or transported for
    18 purposes not prohibited by the laws of this Commonwealth.
    What I'm slightly confused about is the all the exceptions listed after this first section. The section goes on to say,

    2 (a.2) Exception.--
    3 (1) A county, municipality or township may enact an
    4 ordinance under paragraph (2) upon approval of the electorate
    5 in a public referendum as follows:

    6 (i) The referendum question shall be in
    7 substantially the following form:
    8 Do you favor the governing body of (county,
    9 municipality or township) enacting an ordinance to
    10 regulate firearms or ammunition within the (county,
    11 municipality or township) pursuant to 18 Pa.C.S. §
    12 6120(a.2)?
    13 (ii) Adoption of a referendum in May of 2005 by the
    14 electorate of a city of the first class shall authorize
    15 enactment of an ordinance regulating firearms or
    16 ammunition.
    17 (2) A county, municipality or township may enact
    18 ordinances limited to the following enumerated purposes:
    19 (i) Regulating the discharge of firearms within its
    20 boundaries.
    21 (ii) Restricting areas in which firearms may be
    22 sold, although businesses selling firearms may not be
    23 treated more restrictively than other businesses in the
    24 same area.
    25 (iii) Prohibiting or limiting firearms in or
    26 reasonably around publicly owned county, municipality or
    27 township grounds or buildings, including areas in
    28 municipal or county parks or recreation areas.

    29 (iv) Prohibiting or limiting unaccompanied minors
    30 from possession except on the property of parents,
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    1 grandparents or guardians.
    2 (v) Regulating firing ranges.
    3 (vi) Regulating possession of firearms by municipal
    4 employees while in the scope of their employment.
    5 (vii) Regulating the brandishing or the display of a
    6 firearm on public roads, sidewalks, alleys or other
    7 public property or places of public accommodation, or the
    8 manner by which a person may carry a firearm.
    9 (viii) Regulating firearms in the times of
    10 insurrection or civil unrest.
    11 (ix) Restricting air rifles as defined under section
    12 6304(g) (relating to sale and use of air rifles). Nothing
    13 in this subparagraph shall be construed as permitting the
    14 regulation of air rifles in a manner less restrictive
    15 than permitted under section 6304.
    16 (x) Regulating pawn shops or secondhand shops.
    17 (xi) Limiting or prohibiting an individual without a
    18 license to carry a firearm from possessing or carrying a
    19 firearm within reasonably defined zones surrounding
    20 schools, playgrounds, universities, colleges, bars,
    21 convention centers or other places of general public
    22 accommodations.
    23 (xii) Regulating the storage or transportation of
    24 explosives except that the regulations may not prohibit
    25 the safe storage or transportation of ammunition.
    26 (xiii) Regulating the storage of firearms.
    27 Regulations under this subparagraph may not circumvent 53
    28 Pa.C.S. § 2962(g).
    29 (xiv) Regulating possession of firearms by a person
    30 that contracts with the municipality while in the
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    1 performance of their duties specified in the contract.
    2 (3) A city of the first class may adopt ordinances doing
    3 any of the following:
    4 (i) Limiting the ownership, possession, transfer or
    5 transportation of assault weapons within the city limits.
    6 (ii) Requiring background checks or waiting periods
    7 on the purchase of firearms in addition to that required
    8 by State law.
    9 (iii) Limiting the number of firearms that may be
    10 purchased in a specific period of time.
    11 * * *
    12 Section 2. Section 2962(g) of Title 53 is amended to read:
    13 § 2962. Limitation on municipal powers.
    14 * * *
    15 (g) Regulation of firearms.--[A] Except as set forth in 18
    16 Pa.C.S § 6120(a.2) (relating to limitation on the regulation of
    17 firearms and ammunition), a municipality shall not enact any
    18 ordinance or take any other action dealing with the regulation
    19 of the transfer, ownership, transportation or possession of
    20 firearms.
    21 * * *
    22 Section 3. This act shall take effect in 60 days.
    My first question is did I find the actual version of this bill as it is on the books or is this a failed amendment? My second question is, if this is the actual bill and I'm reading it correctly, is a referendum in a locality able to strip away all of those possible things listed? And if that's the case, why don't localities just put these things to a vote rather than unilaterally enacting their will? Thanks
    Opera Non Verba

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    Default Re: Question about Preemption

    Not sure why your are reading house bill 18 from 2007 .

    If your question is what is the current LAW on pre-emption then click below:

    18 Pa CS §6120
    IANAL

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    Default Re: Question about Preemption

    Quote Originally Posted by PennStateCarry View Post
    My first question is did I find the actual version of this bill as it is on the books or is this a failed amendment?
    I don't know, only addressing part 2.

    Quote Originally Posted by PennStateCarry View Post
    My second question is, if this is the actual bill and I'm reading it correctly, is a referendum in a locality able to strip away all of those possible things listed? And if that's the case, why don't localities just put these things to a vote rather than unilaterally enacting their will? Thanks
    If it hasn't been done by now it's likely the .gov factions in question know they haven't got a snowball's chance of passing it thru the electorate, so they're gonna do it on their own.

    Because it's "what the people want"...

    FML

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    Default Re: Question about Preemption

    Quote Originally Posted by tl_3237 View Post
    Not sure why your are reading house bill 18 from 2007 .

    If your question is what is the current LAW on pre-emption then click below:

    18 Pa CS §6120
    Thanks for the clarification, I wasn't sure if what I quoted was the current version.

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